r/ModCoord has officially recommended migration off of Reddit.

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Awesome! Though I guess we should probably start thinking about spinning up new instances to handle the load if Reddit actually implodes entirely.

We should recommend people sign up on some of the various kbin instances, listed here: https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list

My instance only currently has 8 registered users so I know I can take on some more people to help spread the load. People don’t need to sign up for mine specifically though, we just don’t wanna overload kbin.social

thanks for the list of the kbin instances! Hopefully we can migrate our accounts someday. Joining kbin.social at first has been helpful to me to not have to go through that growing pain of not being able to see many communities/magazines
- Yeah no problem! I think that’s the link we should be passing around to people instead of flooding kbin.social (if we can). I’ve tried to populate my instance with all the top popular communities from other instances (including Lemmy) because I know that lack of content is a turn off for instances other than the “main” ones.
- I'm somewhat of a greybeard, I joined Kbin in the old times when there was only kbin.social. A whole week ago. Looking forward to account migration too, just for load-balancing.
How's resource usage? I hear kbin is heavy on RAM
- On average, it looks to be less than 2gb of ram at the moment. CPU and RAM usage obviously will go up as I have more users, but it’s not bad at all at the moment. I’ve been pleasantly surprised tbh. I am also completely prepared to scale the server up if I get more users on my instance.
  Edit: just a follow up, looks like I can scale my instance to a maximum two ways,
  “cpu optimized” up to 48 vCPU and 96gb of ram
  “Memory optimized” up to 32 vCPU and 256gb of ram
  I’m a long way off of the max though now, my server is only 2 vCPU and 4gb memory for now
okay the only thing is, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep making instance names that don't start with kbin. because then if kbin/lemmy really do take off, it would be so hard to google search for them. You can't do the site:kbin. search if those instances with different names make magazines/communities and you can't find them with that google filter
- I don’t necessarily disagree, I don’t see it happening though unfortunately. The whole idea with federation is for people to make their own instances or to fork the software from the original so they can do their thing. The whole idea being “freedom to do what you want.” Telling people what to name their websites/instances likely won’t fly with the instances owners
What is the difference between kbin and lemmy?
- They are two different types of software that can access the fediverse. Check out lemmy.ml and kbin.social for instance to see the differences. They can both talk to one another and see posts from each type of software. (Kbin can also see posts from mastodon which is kind of like Twitter) I’d say check both out and see what interface you like better. Since they both can share posts with one another you really aren’t missing much by choosing one over the other.

I will be thrilled if we end up with some experienced Reddit mods running communities or instances of their own.

I would welcome them to mod my community with open arms ! I hope we see some of them come over
It will be an interesting time for sure. I hope it can work out in a way that skilled moderators can be compensated for their efforts. It seems like donation-supported instances for niche communities isn't too unrealistic right now, though that doesn't solve the volunteer labor problem. Cleverer things will probably become possible as the technology improves.
Instance based communities sound really interesting until it comes to the matter of an instance needing to be shut down. I hope the portability factor of Lemmy gets better, because that's an easy way to lose tons of valuable informarion.
- The information won't necessarily be lost, because most/all? the instances that were previously federated with the shut-down instance should have cached copies of its activity. Not sure on what scale, or how far back, content caching will be, but I imagine admins have (or should have) the ability to configure that sort of thing
  Now, from the perspective of a user looking to migrate to a new platform, not being able to "take it with you" is a valid concern. Mastodon seems to have account export nailed down, but lemmy/kbin are still pretty new and might need time to implement something like this
That's already the case, e.g. lemmy.dbzer0.com
- I've been trying to attract other reddit mods as well but success has not been great
Some of the /r/ExperiencedDevs mods are running the programming.dev instance and most Star Trek-related subreddits moved to startrek.website, so it’s already happening.
Speaking for myself, I'm enjoying the break!
I think the r/piracy mod already did this with lemmy

Served 13 years in Reddit Penetentiary, just joined here, hello

We beleive in second chance here so welcome !
- Yeah, the question though is if you believe yourself to be rehabilitated and ready to enter civil society
Arrrrrr, there needs be some rock breaking
- You mod 16 subs, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t take me cause I can’t go; I owe my soul to the IPO
They weren't all bad years, but the marriage soured over time.
Fledditors unite!
Congratulations. Takes a bit of getting used to, but fun stuff!

I feel like federation let's this basically be what many want reddit to be, a platform by the userbase, for the userbase.

Exactly. Capitalist platforms will all suffer from enshitification. They will eventually have to make money, and users are products. Their shareholders will eventually force the platforms to extract money from their users.

Divert more power to hull integrity!

They are still coming through!
- Reconfigure the deflector dish for an inverse tacyon stream!

Awesome, more users is good!

Kbin is so nice and seems more stable than lemmy. I spent all of yesterday on a lemmy account with a lot of loading errors and all of today on kbin and not a single error! Well done to the devs.

You’ll get a couple but they’re usually super temporary 503s so it just feels like the Reddit of yore
That's excellent to hear! I've been following the progress of KBin closely. The big thing I'm waiting for is mobile apps
- @hariette@tech.lgbt is working on a client that is (currently) called Kmoon.
  It might be renamed soon, but I've signed up for the beta and am currently waiting for an Android build 👀
- On the plus side, kbin now has a PWA, and it works pretty well.
Part of it is that Lemmy instances are dealing with a major influx of new users and it's causing server issues. I decided to avoid that and the defederation drama and fired up my own instance. I'm kind of curious if I could use another server to run a kbin instance and just have it be kbin.captainapathetic.cfd instead, I don't see why it wouldn't work, considering doing it for Mastodon too.
- Yeah understandable, I‘ll give the lemmy account another try when this maybe calms down a bit. Which, considering the big Reddit App death is happening on the 30th may be a while lol.
  Own instance is a cool idea to deal with that as well, since for one user even a raspberry pi should be enough or so I have heard, maybe I‘ll try it if I get bored.

This is great news! Cheers to everyone who's making Rexit possible.

Took them a million years, but finally. Many of them weren't quite happy with the idea of migrating to platforms where they aren't the main moderators anymore.

Though (well, I'm biased) I'd say recommending Lemmy over Kbin at the moment would be better, given the number of fully working instances

Lots of people take issue with the political leanings of the Lemmy developers which may be why it's lower on the list, although I agree that it is more established.
In any case, that's the beauty of the fediverse. Create an account on both, or choose just one and cross-subscribe to communities you like.
- I won't dive deeper into this issue not because I'm against the debate, but because I made it my personal goal on Lemmy to avoid such topics.
  But I'll say this: people are happily using software from the GNU foundation and they do not keep repeatedly bringing up the political opinions of the founder. So to me, this looks like a very flawed and one sided argument.
  Lemmy is got, today, instances that are in direct opposition to every single worldview of it's founders - and they can't do anything to control that. Great! That's how it should be.
- Yup, I prefer lemmy myself but both kbin and lemmy interoperate with each other just fine. Pick either! It's still better than sticking around on reddit.
I started a bourbon community, and I would turn it over to the /r/bourbon mods immediately. I suspect many feel the same way that have been creating communities.

It'll be interesting to see if this changes the playing field for social networks in any significant way.

Woah. Get those lifeboats filled.

First on the list. Sweet.

I find it to be a way better solution than Lemmy for various reasons.
- Tbh I prefer Lemmy, at least until kbin gets slightly more mature, but I'm incredibly glad kbin exists because it's the Same Platform as lemmy essentially, but without the baggage of the lemmy dev's controversial politics, I think the general fediverse link aggregator network needs kbin to grow.

I'd say this is for the best of us.

Even the existing moderators have started to acknowledge that Reddit is no longer a platform for the people, and it was just a way for Spez to make money all along, even saying that the years of content can be marketed and sold.

Excellent news!

Really happy about this, hope it truly happens. Finally a social in the true meaning of the word.

Inb4 +500badillion new users

Text of the post, for those who prefer not to give the traffic:

Greetings all,

We've started the protest this Monday, in solidarity with numerous people who need access to the API, including bot developers, people with accessibility needs (r/blind) and 3rd party app users (Apollo, Sync, and many more). r/humor in particular has made a great post regarding protesting in support of the blind people.

Despite numerous past policies and statements, in support of the mods' right to protest, we have witnessed many attempts this weeks to force subreddits to open (examples: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).

In light of this, we recommend to all those supporting this cause that you take the following steps:

review other softer forms of protest (some of them mentioned here);

take appropriate measures to consult with your community;

decide on a course of action, that complies with the ever more draconian admin policies, but still helps send the message that reddit needs to do better on the list of our community demands.

Here is a short list of actions that many subs are already engaging in:

private days (example - Touch Grass Tuesdays, or on the weekends);

restricting the topic of the forum (example: restricting to just pictures or gifs of one personality );

narrowing the topic of your forum (see the example of r/Wellthatsucks;

widening the topic of your forum (see the example of r/interestingasfuck);

marking the subreddit temporarily NSFW or switching to allowing NSFW content. Changing this setting should not be taken lightly (it would be against the TOS); however, if content in your sub happens to also include "nudity, pornography, or profanity", please take appropriate steps to warn users, including temporarily marking your community as NSFW. This has the undesirable effect of reducing your community's reach and visibility but, per the Moderator Code of Conduct, it is our duty as moderators to ensure the safety of those viewing our content and provide appropriate warning to anyone who may incidentally view any mature content (see the example of r/Toyota)

linkedin campaign - commenting on the linkedin posts of reddit with info about this protest (demands, and how reddit admins punished protesting mods);

inform reddit advertisers of the current issues;

modifying image posts requirements (all image posts must include an album, and the first picture must be protest-related);

prepare moving the forum to another platform:

https://kbin.social/
https://join-lemmy.org/
https://squabbles.io/
https://tildes.net/;
promote reddit alternatives in the sidebar;

content as usual in an open sub, but the title includes protest language;

remove all sub rules and let the community curate content through up-/downvotes;

open sub and pin anti-staff message (list of unfulfilled promises, terrible decisions), and add to sidebar;

automod sticky on every thread promoting Reddit alternatives;

have automod make scheduled posts about the protest;

increase the age and karma posting requirements through automod;

turn off discovery settings, and popping up on r/all.

As usual:

do not allow or promote harassment of people or communities;

do not allow illegal content, or content that breaks TOS.

We have to work within the limits imposed by reddit, but there is still plenty of ways to get the message to reddit and mass media about the important issues of the protest, that will affect the quality of content on reddit, how people with disabilities can access the site and how mods can fulfill their duties.

Please post below forms of protest in which you engage, or other suggestions.

Honestly, the activity on reddit still seems lower than before the Blackout if you look here, especially for a weekend

I know it's not strictly relevant but god damn it what is it with people refusing to use the shift key?

The admin over at Beehaw does this too. It legitimately makes it hard to take them seriously.

Yeah, I know, who cares, right?

It's not about caring how people get lazy with their writing, I do it plenty. It's about, if you're going to make a public statement, maybe capitalize your sentences so they look professional? There are countless, simple ways to do it automatically on desktop.

Not hating on whoever does this, bu it also bugs the crap out of me. I've seen a few stories written online, and when I open the first chapter and see no capitalization, I just close out of it immediately. It just hurts my brain.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Every sentence has the first letter capitalized. The bullet points are sentence fragments, so they don't need to be capitalized. Capitalization might look more professional to you, but it's not grammatically correct.
You could argue some of them are commands with an implied subject of You, but not all of them. For consistency, you would want the bullet points to all have the same capitalization.

Favorite thing I’ve read all day aside from Father’s Day cards from my daughters.

Is kbin different than lemmy? I don't understand how it might be related

You're literally talking to a kbin.social topic my man.
Go over to kbin.social and see what the discussion looks like from their side: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/51779/r-ModCoord-has-officially-recommended-migration-off-of-Reddit
And yes, they can see you too
- Does kbin have multiple instances? Or is it basically a Lemmy-and-Mastodon singular hybrid instance? Is it even open source?
They are different but are federated. This post is on kbin but I am viewing it on Lemmy.
You are commenting on a kbin post from lemmy :)
In a sense, kbin is different than lemmy, but they can access the same content on the "fediverse". It might be good to think about lemmy and kbin as different clients to access a decentralized web of content through a standard protocol. I can view stuff that originates on a lemmy instance from kbin, and I can view stuff that originates on a kbin instance from lemmy -- all because it's the same protocol.
Correct if wrong, please.

What’s the best/least obnoxious way to suggest to communities who haven’t brought up migrating yet that they should consider it?

There’s like 3 subs that if they migrated over, I’d happily just stay here forever and never go back.

I spent some time going through any subreddit I liked and joining their Discord or Lemmy.
I found quite a few that didn't mention the blackouts or API changes and I didn't want to cause a ruckus by posting...so I'd like to know too.
Posting this from my Lemmy acct but tbh kbin looks nicer. I have a feeling everyone's waiting till the end of the month to really see what happens with the 3rd party apps and then they'll lock themselves in to either: Discord, Lemmy, Kbin, or stay on Reddit.
The more tech savvy and/or privacy minded subreddits moved to Lemmy communities, at least for the stuff I look at.
- Post anyways! The r/skyrimmods sub didnt mention anything about it for a while and I made a post that gained lots of traction and got about 250 upvotes and now it has 800 subs over here with multiple posts a day!

It's not worth staying on at this point anyway. The people that remain are largely assholes. You can basically see the reason that protests don't work as a macrocosm, because most users now are just bitching that "wahh the blackout only hurts users". No different to people complaining about climate activists who block highways, or trans right activists who get blamed for "being too loud and annoying". Protests don't work when solidarity simply doesn't exist because most people are just selfish, short sighted idiots, and that's basically the userbase that remains over on Reddit at this point. I can't think of a good reason to stay and interact with those kinds of people.

There are also lots of apologetic mod posts that are like "we reopened because we don't want to lose all our hard work and be replaced by someone worse, that is not what's best for our community so we're reopening", the ignorance and arrogance of such statements is mind blowing lmao, but trust Reddit mods to not see the wood for the trees.

Tbh I just got here. I sat what the CEO of Reddit had been saying. I prefer to stay with a platform that's small then go back there. Well I guess I gotta learn how to use Lemmy
Edit: I saw*
"Protests don't work" is a weird take on this. No political action is an unmitigated success, movements take time to build momentum. I dunno, try to cool it with the misanthropy. This has gotten a ton of media coverage, built the legitimacy of the fediverse, and forced Reddit to act to break a strike. Not to mention that every step of enshittification makes arguments against corporate controlled social media more compelling in the long term.
Theyre giving in because they dont want to lose their sweet mod power
They are all going to leave eventually. If this utter disdain for the users and mods is before the ipo, then everything after will be much worse. It is inevitable now that the quality of content will decrease, and that’s the thing that will doom them. Even if they fire Huffman and walk this back, the damage is done. They can’t draw in new users on a more than decade old product, so their only choice is to change the product to appeal to new users. Today that means going left or right. The users and mods that stay are writing graffiti on the walls in a flooding city.
I’ve been wondering which social media platform was going to fold like a house of cards, completely unable to make money or attract investors. Reddit was at the bottom of that list, but here we are.
One of the problems is that if those mods get de-moded from one sub they will probably be de-moded from all subs they are currently mods for and I honestly think some of the power mods would rather kill themselves than no longer be a mod.
Never bet against inertia. However...
I don't have to be on reddit.
Inertia doesn't last forever. And there's a lot of friction.

Here's the URL of the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14cr2is/alternativeformsofprotestinlightofadmin/

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