Not to forget, mentioning @fearout for his great suggestions and critical eye!
Oh the ping didn't come through for this posts! Love seeing the new stuff now on my desktop, great work. I'm going to implement the @3dmodeling icon immediately.
Us vs. them is as bad as ever. Just use emoji if you want, but don’t overuse them? Live and let live I say.
This whole 'we need a name and a mascot' deal has big 'Stop trying to make Fetch happen' vibes.
I knew I made a mistake somewhere 😂 I’ll get to it - I’ve been focused on #artemisapp the past weeks, so slowly catching up on my magazines!
@fearout
was replying from mobile - so I'd like to add here... Great work on the texturing! The materials really look like their real life counterparts, perhaps even a bit more edible than supposed to. Which is a good thing.
@fearout
These look great! Just the right amount of detail.
I have created @3dmodeling and @zbrush here, so if you’re interested in sharing these there too I’d personally love that!
They behaved as if discussions of other Fedivese microblogs themselves were some sort of existential threat to the Fediverse.
The web keeps evolving, and honestly in the end usability and accessibility will be key. We're waiting for a project that can lower the bar for the 'common' user who wants to click a button and yell into the void. Probably Meta's intended audience. I expect that this future project will in turn become more of a containment zone than an actual place for discussion, but hey at least the folks who want more than Twitter/Reddit 2.0 will have an entry point to the rest of the fediverse without having to deal with the semantics of it.
Incidentally, where in kbin does it show what type of service other users are using?
Ah, I meant the hostname, not the specific type/kind of instance. Still, to at least be able to differentiate on source rather than claiming everything as its own content, is something I do appreciate. It would either teach me to ignore or value certain contributions more or less, given their origins - i.e. an instance ran by propaganda machines or big business.
Fair points! Glad to have a choice, at least. Even though some people like to think otherwise and astroturf a lot.
Glad to read I was somewhat correct in my assumption.
It's one of the main reasons I don't really watch the Dutch news broadcasts anymore, 50% of the content is American drama not relevant to me.
If I recall correctly, the name /kbin originates from linux development, where /sbin relates to essential system binaries. When developing this platform, the term /kbin came from a joke between @ernest and friends. I believe it also refers to a Karabin, a Polish rifle. Ernest is Polish.
I mean, they are using Linux for the Steam Deck, right? Shows they're open to supporting non-standard platforms, and seeing their potential.
If you build it, they will come. I fear the same regarding corporate, but money does make the world go round. We're in the wild west!
QRD on Calckey and Misskey? I'm afraid I missed that whole conversation.
Tribalism is a big issue in the social media space, and I hoped the whole 'connected platforms' thing would kind of alleviate that. Still, everyone wants to be part of the 'winning' team, and folks are less likely to socially invest in a platform without good reason.
As stated, I am glad kbin denotes instance origins. Some folks are just too set in the 'my team has to win' mindset, and will dismiss or disrupt any other information received from elsewhere.
I am presuming @PabloDiscobar means that in general, online spaces gravitate towards American-focused content posted by Americans, for Americans, moderated by Americans. The web is a different place when you're about 6 hours ahead of the main content generators. Other kinds of views and experiences get posed, but get washed away the moment the East Coast wakes up.
An example is Reddit's 'WorldNews' sub mainly focusing on American issues. As a Dutch person, I would not consider some Texan individual's issues with city council world news.
I am Dutch, and I personally loathe Dutch content. Seeing the inane 'gekoloniseerd' spam any time anything Dutch was mentioned grew tiresome quickly. Add to that that a lot of posted content centers around Randstad issues, this vague sense of holier-than-thou dialogue, and I felt even less compelled to interact with Dutch online spaces. I may be a bit jaded - but Holland is not the Netherlands.
I can read Swedish, French, and German - and those occasionally visible spaces, apart from the meme-focused instances, seem far more mature and focused in their conversations.
a weird name for masses to adapt
Reddit made sense. 'Read it'. Digg? I 'dig' that. 'Lemmy' look at the meme. Even TikTok is a decent name for a social media platform.
Most folks here are tech savvy and don't mind the kbin name, but I don't expect some of my friends to 'get' it. Which is not inherently a bad thing, because it also prevents engagement from certain types of user who are looking for the next place to spam.
*Formatting edit.
It finally happened: many Reddit 3rd party apps have officially shut down. With it comes an influx of users looking for a new place. With the influx come new points of view, new kinds of users with different expectations. This change is already visible, with obvious trolls and attention seekers throwing out bait. What if there is more to it however?
Browsing casually I noticed more and more kbin posts critical of its development, its functioning, and the speed at which @ernest is able to implement updates.
I find it odd that, while denouncing kbin for its current flaws in deployment (despite being clearly stated to be in alpha) the owner of that instance proceeds to praise Lemmy and wave away concerns regarding its devs who
> > > (Lemmy devs) are willing to create a product that makes the entire internet better, and share it with everyone, for free, regardless of your beliefs. > >
despite having proven that their politics do affect their product.
"Just defederate" in my opinion also is not an argument. It's closing your eyes to a problem propagated by those who benefit from influence from the shadows - on both sides of the political spectrum.
Hence my mention of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) and Tribalism. Pushing users towards a preferred platform (in this case, Lemmy) by seeding threadiverse posts with statements such as
- kbin isn't ready
- kbin won't have the same engagement as Lemmy
- the single kbin dev @ernest doesn't have enough time/skill
- it will never be as good as Reddit
will just lead to Reddit 2.0 painted in red and yellow. As kbin users, we should combat this kind of behavior.
We're all here for a better threadiverse, and a singular means of interacting will not be beneficial to its growth. The reason we're here is because we want a Reddit-like environment, not a single 'frontpage of the internet'. Tribalism in the threadiverse will get us nowhere fast.
Perhaps it was unintentional that kbin was not federating properly with Lemmy instances. What I am afraid of is, knowing the track record of Lemmy devs, it follows a scary trajectory, reminiscent of a few tried and true tactics Reddit and others have used before.
I'd like to state that I am not unbiased. I am helping out with Artemis, a kbin app currently in development. I do not want to support or make use of Lemmy for many reasons. However, I could not care less if someone is from a Lemmy instance, or if I interact with them in that same space. If I see Lemmy.ml/Lemmygrad.ml behind their name, I will be cautious of their intentions however.
Let's hope we, not as 'rexxiters', 'kbinauts' or 'lemmings', but as fediverse users can actually create a product that makes the entire internet better, and share it with everyone, for free, regardless of our beliefs.
The current 503 page reads:
> > > 503 Server error - We're working on this, check back in a few days. > >
Perhaps days should be changed to something else? A moment, a while... etc. in order not to scare people away whenever the site is being tinkered with. Uptime remains an important metric for many, and 'days' is a harsh timeframe.
I am assuming image hosting will be quite difficult to scale if kbin keeps growing exponentially. Currently, I believe @ernest is taking care of hosting?
I remember IMGUR being created to aid Reddit/Redditors to host images without much hassle, but what would be the best way to tackle this for kbin? Use 3rd party hosting like imgur and the like?
Regarding posting media, there are still a few functionalities that could use some work. The video button does not seem to work, and images do not respect aspect ratio in the main kbin feeds. In my opinion clicking an image in the feed should expand it (much like Reddit Enhancement Suite allowed), or the button to expand it should be more visible.
> > > Dive into a desert world from the creator of Dragon Ball, Akira Toriyama! > Play as the Fiend Prince, Beelzebub, and set off on an adventure using your wits, brawn, and vehicles to save #SANDLAND! > >
Quite excited for this!
Finding my way around kbin slowly, and making posts here and there. Text posts have been fine, though the distinction between 'threads' and 'microblogs' could use some work.
Similarly, a means of uploading images in a gallery format, or in a means that does not restrict to a strangely resized square on the main magazine would be a good addition. The video tab in uploads does not seem to work yet?
With an eye on the future, visualizing tags much like Reddit has done with Flairs might be a nice way to go about things, but what exactly are Badges?
I'm looking forward to posting more images of original content, so having these options would be great!
The whole reddit situation has been quite the storm, certainly for people fed up and looking for an excuse to move on.
Reddit was in the fortunate position that it started out What You See Is What You Get -- Compare new reddit to old reddit. Click link of interest, get content. These Fediverse instances harken back to that, and I am happy for it. The spread out nature of the fediverse however is a pro and a con. Information and content will be less accessible and more difficult to interact with, but at least it is not \_in\_accessible instantly if a storm brews - unless folks decide to defederate.
However, another positive for Reddit has been its name: it rolls off the tongue, it is memorable enough, and accessible/understandable to people not tech-savvy.
In this regard, Lemmy (in my opinion) has a foot in the door opposed to KBIN. What does KBIN stand for? How am I going to convince fellow enthusiasts to 'kbin' something? Lemmy just feels like more of a verbal substitute.
Having spent some time waiting for the nice folks to gather in the correct place, I'm really rooting for kbin to gain a foothold. Even more so now the actual Developers of Lemmy are showing their cards and dangerous ideologies.
I hope more people become aware of these issues with Lemmy, and will flood to a more neutral place like kbin, or perhaps another.
