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10mo ago

Always the last to know...

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My son's favorite shirt:
- That's truly amazing!
- I'll forget Pluto together with the 200+ other dwarf planets in our solar system, thank you very much.
  
  I understand the rationale for demoting Pluto, and I don't disagree at all
  
  Just need a bigger mnemonic
The real problem here is the nostalgia factor. A lot of people grew up having the planets ingrained into their brains with various mnemonics. Hard to say goodbye to “pizza”.
- Mary's Virgin Explanation Made Joseph Suspect Upstairs Neighbour
- My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Naming
  …
  Naming what‽
  
  Just chiming in to say nice interrobang, fellow interrobanger
- There was no scenario where your precious mnemonics got preserved. If Pluto was still a planet, then Ceres would be too and it would fuck them all up.
  
  Mary’s Virgin Explanation Made Joseph Suspect Upstairs Neighbour's Potent Cum
- MEin VEtter ERklärt Mir Jeden Samstag Unsere NEun PLaneten. Is a German mnemonic
  
  Yes, but your language is even weirder than English.
  At least English doesn't have any words like rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz.
  
  MEin Vater ERklärt Mir Jeden SAmstag Unseren Nachthimmel
  is what I heard. Seems parents post '05 already adapted and overcame.
  
  I don't think mnemonic translates correctly into German ;p
What happened:
- mr show goat
That’s messed up.
- Is that Bruton Gaster?
There's a LOT of dwarf planets we've found since Pluto is what happened, basically.
Now I'm curious: How publicised was Pluto's discovery in 1930? Did the public care? Would Earhart likely have learnt about it before she vanished in 1937?
- They were basically calling it the great American scientific discovery at the time. Which is probably why some people were so loath to accept the "demotion."
- Well, it was definitely in a lot of newspapers: https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=ninth+planet+discovered&tbs=,bkt:s,cdr:1,cd_min:1+jan+1929,cd_max:31+dec+1931&num=100
- Angela Collier did a video about the whole fiasco from a physicists prospective which is fun https://youtu.be/TwCbMJmgShg
  Iirc she talks about how it's kinda BS, caused public outrage, and might have harmed science communication in the mind of the public.
Pluto is a planet and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
- Pluto was a planet, once. The crown jewel of the Plutonian Empire. But the Plutonians got greedy. They dug too deep in search of plutonium and awoke a terrible horror. Now all that's left of Pluto is a cloud of asteroids and a celestial dwarf, barren and uninhabitable.
  
  It's Morty's fault.
  
  I thought he was a mouse's pet dog.
- The problem with Pluto being a planet is that we would also have to classify something like thousands of other objects as planets as well. That's the whole reason it's not classified as one anymore.
  
  But if we let them take Pluto from us, where does it end? Who is going to defend Mercury and Mars when they come for those next?
  This is how we end up without a planet at all!
- Correct. It is a dwarf planet.

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