Trump says he will seek to eliminate daylight saving time

I don't know who chose that headlining image of him pointing (and looking) at the sun, but it's perfect.

I'm imagining thousands of Americans doing the same and some shooting firearms at the sun too.

This is one policy I would like to see followed through with.

Literally the only good idea he's ever had.
- It's not even his idea, though. It's been introduced by Marco Rubio 4 times, starting in 2018.
To be specific, we make it such that the current daylight savings time is the norm.

This was on the docket to be voted on in 2023 (i think, could have been 2022) and it never made it to the floor. Why? His cronies. They just let it fall by the side, probably so they could do it now. I’m so sick and tired of this shit show if a govt. Failed fucking state.

This needs to be top comment. So many little things he does that sane people like are just things Republicans blocked until they could be the ones to do the thing.
Any state can abolish DST on its own, some have already done so.
There was a bill in Congress to put the entire country on permanent DST (which states can't do on their own). It died because (a) some states don't want permanent DST, and (b) doctors have found that permanent DST is less healthy than no DST.
In fact, Congress already tried permanent DST briefly in the 70s. Some children were killed in early morning traffic accidents, schools responded by shifting their winter hours later, and the public generally turned against it.
- Would that even work on Indian reservations - can congress override their choices?
Besides impotently complaining about it on the internet, what else can we do about it?
- Impotently complain harder
Seriously, this was suppose to have happened like five years ago!

Will y'all shut the fuck up and act like you don't want this? You're going to ruin it.

We absolutely need to start protesting this so he makes it a priority.

- The only way that Democrats will eventually come out on top here is massive tariffs. We have to get the word out and thank Donald Trump for his concept of a plan on tariffs.
Dang, I sure do love that Obama created daylight savings time. I hope it never goes away. Thanks Obama!
- Some, if not all people agree that this makes him the YUGEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME

To avoid confusion, all of the US will be on DTT (Donald Trump Time), which will vary based on where he currently is.

Do not give him ideas, please.

I want it to stay sprung forward, can't remember if that's DST or non. I feel like I'm in the minority, but fuck if I care if it's dark in the morning I want sunlight for longer once I'm done working...

DST is sprung forward. It happens in the summer. Standard time is what the northern hemisphere is on now in the winter.
Fun fact. In the winter the sun is pretty close to its highest at Noon but I the summer that happens at 1:00 pm.
- I suppose it makes some difference how far East to West you are in your timezone too, but this time of year I'm dark on my way to work and dark on my way home, if we were still in DST I'd have an hour of sunlight still after work. It's only about 6 weeks that are that extreme for me but I'd still prefer DST. And I love the long summer nights when it's light until almost 10 lol
The EU's proposed DST abolishment proposal would go to permanent DST time, too.
Unfortunate that it has been in the back burner for so long. It would genuinely be a good boon for the EU tech industry to abolish DST lol.
Same. This was part of Rubio's "Sunshine Protection" think a couple years back, but does NOT seem to be part of that Trump has discussed so far.

He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.

Works on contingency? No, money down!

Well, good.

Seeing a lot of talk on here about keeping Standard or DST.

Oh my God for the love of all that's holy just let them pick one!

I don't care if the sun comes up at 2:00am or 2:00pm or even if the sun fuckin' sets at 12:00 noon. Just pick a time and stick with it. Holy shitsnax.

Couldn’t have stated it more succinctly myself. Just pick one and stop this idiocy
Upvote for shitsnax... sploosh

“Oh, yum! I found a chocolate chip in this bucket of catshit that the ruling class is shoveling down my throat!”

Broken clock.

Twice a year?

This has been in talks for years already. This is not a Trump thing The Senate passed the act that would have removed it unanimously in 2022
With all this insane shit going on, it might actually end up having one benefit

Can we get rid of timezones and switch to UTC please

I don't want it to ever be -03:00. That shit is confusing as hell.
- Lol I think it would just be 3 am or 9pm depending on which way you are talking

In other news, RFK has recommended extending this to eliminate both daylight and time.

Fuck, I hate it when he's right.

If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.

I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don't care if it's dark in the morning, I'm working. Don't tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I'm allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.
- Sunrise here 10:20 and sunset 12:30. Darkness is our fren
Fuck that. Clock noon and solar noon need to diverge less, not more.
Science says it’s better to have day light in the morning and dark at night
But people aren’t waking up at 5am and going to bed at 5pm so it really doesn’t enforce standard time

They're going to move it 30 mins to meet in the middle...
- I mean it seems to work for India, Nepal, etc.
If they're using the 2022 bill they're already fucking it up. Kids are going to be walking to school in the dark in winter and get hit by cars because they want to pretend that we're a few thousand miles east of where we actually are.
- So maybe we could do the other thing that scientists have been saying, and make school start later. Obviously just one of the things that would need to be fixed, because school is currently a glorified daycare (because both parents are working, yay) and changing the times would fuck up parents' lives.

Lol trump doing something i actually support

Aotus says a lot of things including how he would like to bang his daughter.

I wonder how he'll make it worse.

He'll lock it into non-dst to the sun won't rise until 8:30 in the winter in the middle latitude states.
- But dst doesn't change what the sun does. Just the arbitrary number us humans put on it. Not changing a pattern 2 times a year seems great! Who cares what number it is? I used to love in Minnesota, DST and short winter days, now I live in Arizona, we have plenty of sun and no DST. The sun rises at 5am in Arizona in the summer. But that changes nothing about my day.
He's going to rename it Trump Time.
- Donald Savings Time

God I hope he doesn’t ruin this long overdue improvement.

They say even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.

A bill has been floating in the house and senate for a few years. Trump could have got it done back in 2019. So why is this the only thing he can pass?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act

Every time this topic comes up I wonder how many computer systems this will break. Maybe we find out soon if this is really realized.

I'd bet it actually simplifies as least as many things as it breaks. Basically all computers already keep track of time as a count of seconds since a UTC epoch anyway, and then do timezone conversions on top of that.
- Well, in essence yes. But I have seen enough mishandling and homegrown stuff of custom date-time calculations that this could get interesting. I suspect that there are a lot of systems where the TZ database is never updated which at least will result in shifted displayed local time.
  Also, it is fun to get data from old programs and also from userinput where the actual offset has to be guessed from the timezone. And if that conversion data is old, fun is had. It does not matter how time is represented internally in this case.
There are probably hundreds of thousands of devices out there that are smart enough to know about time zones but old enough that there no chance of a software update, for example APC UPSs and power strips used in data centres world wide and years beyond end of support.
As long as they can get tzdata / Olsen db updates before the first change, there's usually no problem. But, I'm sure there are still devices out there using the OLD US switchover dates from the Bush era, because they have a different, possibly "hard-coded" rule set.
It wont be too bad. If you mean computers used commercially, Unix keeps a running total of seconds since the epoch and DST only affects whats displayed as time. Nothing will fundamentally change for these systems. In windows server products it wont be a problem, and some windows clients use an automatic patch process. Air gapped computers may have some hacky process around DST, but its a pretty solved problem.

This sucks because it means he absolutely definitely will not do this.

It's just two weeks away bro, I swear

Oh, I guess he’s ok then.

Naa wasn't even his idea. He's just taking credit for something that's already been dragging out for years.
- Regardless of this cunt, I’ll be happy for no DST

Probably the only good thing he'd ever do, look forward to seeing how they fuck it up.

The EU parliament had a vote to abolish DST, and it passed. They just forgot to hammer out the details, then COVID and Ukraine happened, so focus shifted.

I hope they'll pick up the ball again at some point.

Perhaps if the US does it, they'll follow. And then anywhere else left will do the same and we can be done with this nonsense.
- The decision is made. It just takes a while for the 27 countries to get their local legislation up to speed. Many haven't decided whether they'd want to be on standard time or +1. There's some business advantage to being on the same timezone as your neighbors.
  And then software manufacturers need some heads up to get their shit together.

I find going on and off DST to be kind of a nuisance, but I don't have strong feelings about it one way or the other. It seems like the experience varies from place to place, and your region's distance to the equator is an important factor. The closer you are to the equator, the less necessary DST is.

Historically, some of the regions that went off of DST much prefer it that way, and never looked back. But others regretted opting out of it, and went back to doing it again after everyone complained about it.

I'm sure 47 will make it all about him, whatever he does. And it will probably be a chaotic mess of software patches when they try to implement it. There will be far worse problems to deal with during the Stupid Ages, but throw this one on the pile I guess.

It’s weird how I watched VEEP last year and here it is coming true.

Based

If he doesn't, I'll shoot him myself. Canada will probably come up with some other shitty excuse once they can't say they do it for US trade any more though.

Great policy. Misogynistic, racists, liar will say anything for attention, tho.

Good

wow that guy has my vote! 😀

It's the American way, every four years Congress gets one thing done.

Good

The far-right former brasilien president did the same

It's funny because extending DST is the only productive thing W. did too

Didn't that little rascal George Bush 2 try this and fail? Expecting the same results.

Biden did aswell

Permanent Standard Time people are weird. I do not give a shit if its dark when I'm going to work, but seeing the sun going down at 3pm fucks with my mental health. Winter is miserable purely for that reason, I can deal with the cold, not that.

It’s too confusing for him.