The Lesser Evil

I like it but I wish the enlightened centrist had more dumb shit to say, they have so many fantastic lines such as "there's no real difference between right or left"

they are both evils, lmao, Humanists idea vs fascists idea, lawl,
Pretty sure the 'enlightened centrist' in this meme represents the 'leftwing' party, does it not? That's the party that 'compromises' when the Overton window moves right.
Everybody on the actual left is represented by the crying figure.

In America (or anywhere else with a two party system), this can be understood through the Ratchet Effect.

Thanks, TIL,

This is what happens when the left doesn’t show up to vote because there aren’t any candidates far enough left in their opinion. The people that actually vote will be further right on the ideological spectrum and the right most candidate gets elected.

Fuck off with that. That's what happens when people in the centre sacrifice everything to keep the liberal agenda going, even if it means fascism is the next step.
Liberals always make compromises with their right, and never with their left. That is the problem. The left is warning of the problem for decades.
- In a democracy it is the voters who decide. If leftists want to stay home because Kamala isn’t far enough left then we all get fascism.
It's funny because on the right you've got the incels who won't date a woman because she has a mole on her leg, but then on the left you've got people who won't vote for someone who meets 95% of their criteria.
What's that quote, don't let perfection stand in the way of progress or something
Progressives fall apart, conservatives fall in line

Agreed that the left had shifted right. Don't agree that lesser evil voting is the reason for this.

hmmm,
Im guilty to avoid vote sometimes just because of this personnaly,
I'm with you on that. It's hard to blame lesser evil voting when the greater evil is the one who wins the election.
If the lesser evil was winning and yet still shifting right to compromise, that would be the problem the comic describes. But in reality, the lesser evil is retreating right because that's the side that is getting more votes.

The road to hell is paved with "lesser evils".

and with good intents 😪

Tghost qui post sur une commu francophone et les anglophones pensent que ça parle des US épisode 314

Les Anglophones qui viennent sur jlai.lu c'est vraiment un running gag
- im really sorry ^^"
  En plus oulala, ca vient l'instance du diable 😅,
  Mais je trouve que cela resume exactement la situation francaise egalement, malheureusement.
  HS : d'ou le fait que je veuille pas etre defedere, tout n'est pas a jeter, apres chacun.e sa patience et la ou iel est pret a "s'investir"
TMTC for real 😅,
Je voulais faire l'analogie avec la situation francaise ofc,

Ah yes, saying trump is worse is definitely DeFenDiNg GeNoCiDe

Voting for literally anyone enabling genocide is defending genocide
- Ahh yes, engaging in harm reduction is the exact same as voting for genocide. I'm glad nuance is still alive and well in 2024.
  "I don't like genocide, so I'm going to enable the president who enabled the genocide in the first place, and has promised to make it even worse."
  You guys know the only reason Benny was confident enough to begin the ethnic cleansing was because Trump ended the nuclear agreement with Iran? And that the real goal of the Israeli state is to rope America into an all out war with Iran.
  US foreign diplomacy is usually unanimously terrible, but the one issue they've actually differentiated with in the last few decades has been Iran.
  Do you guys think it can't get worse for the Arab world, or are you too busy virtue signaling to engage in meaningful harm reduction?
  I mean, joe bided and Harris are soulless liberal ghouls, but they aren't openly fascist. It's like I'm talking to people in the Weimar Republic abstaining from voting because of the Namibian genocide, and then having them say Bruning is the same as Hitler.
  It's perfectly fine to condemn them for the genocide that's currently happening, but falsely equivocating them as exactly the same does nothing but take away options from the people who are actually in harms way.
- Okay. Those who effectively voted for the party who wants more genocide are explicitly supporting AND desiring genocide to happen then.
Wut ? 😶
I will need explanations here, sorry,
- Given that (practically) no one is defending genocide, maybe you can explain this image before I proceed?

J'ai pris un moment pour comprendre à cause des couleurs.

à force de laisser les médias se faire racheter par le capital de droite on glisse doucement mais très sûrement dans cette direction.

Mais bon comme dit le mémé au moins on aura plus à entendre ces gauchistes woke /s

Ouais enfin le problème c'est surtout que personne se bouge tant que pa situation est pas critique. Dans une situation comme ça, à moins d'aller en full révolution y'a pas grand chose d'autre à faire que limiter les dégats.

L'idéal étant d'avoir un système de vote qui n'est pas purement binaire hein, mais s'il l'est, le "je préfère rien faire et laisser les autres décider" aide pas vraiment.

Ou bien voter plutôt que daller dans ce genre de discours ? Mais bon propagande toussa C'est le but de ce schéma d'ailleurs. C'est pas spécialement la révolution qui est nécessaire. Enfin, ça dépend ce que l'on y met derrière.
Je te laisse voter pour le moindre mal donc visiblement ? Tu parles de situation, laquelle ? La dernière ligne ? La première ? Suffit de voir le traitement de lfi alors que c'est que des socs dem en majorité🙄
- Dans une situation où le vote n'a d'impact qu'entre deux candidats, le moindre mal réduit la casse. Bien évidemment, si les gens considèrent que les nazis sont un moindre mal que d'être vaguement à gauche, ça ne marche pas, mais je pense que c'est principalement qu'ils sont eux-mêmes des nazis qui refusent de l'admettre.
  Mais dans la situation aux Etats-Unis par exemple, une myriade de votants ont décidé de ne pas voter, pour ne pas succomber au "moindre mal", ce qui a largement favorisé Trump. Et je pense pas que Trump crée une meileure situation que le "moindre mal".
  Après non, ce que je prône c'est surtout d'aller botter le cul des fachos et de changer le fonctionnement pourri des "démocraties" actuelles vu que le système de vote actuel est inutile et favorise les cons. Mais cette opposition au "moindre mal" tend à n'avoir aucun effet positif, et se base sur une vision idéaliste du vote qui n'a aucun lien avec la réalité pratique de celui-ci.

Where's the straw man?