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IOC leader says 'hate speech' directed at Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting is unacceptable | Africanews

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IOC President Thomas Bach said the “hate speech” directed at boxers Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting at the Paris Olympics is “totally unacceptable.”

“We will not take part in a politically motivated … cultural war,” Bach said at a news briefing Saturday at the midway point of the Paris Games, where he wanted to draw a line under days of global scrutiny about the female boxers' gender.

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The IOC being on the right side of history for once? Huzzah!
Snideness aside, credit where credit is due: though it shouldn't be, this simple refutation of utter bigoted lunacy is very courageous, given the fucked up political climate, and should be applauded!
- doubt it. would be a firstie. world boxing federation banned them both a while ago. woc and ioc hate each other. thomas bach lied in the interview when he said there was never any indication they wouldnt be women. so i am sure it is the wronf decision. as always.
  
  Are you saying there is evidence that these two cis-gendered women are not women?
  
  Cool. Let's see their evidence.
The prevalence of 46 XY in the female athletic population is about 7 per 1000 adults, which is 140 times greater than what is seen in the general population. For context, of the 4,676 women competing at the 2012 Summer Olympic Games in London, we would predict ~32 women competitors would have a 46 XY
Source: Bermon S, Garnier PY, Hirschberg AL, et al. Serum androgen levels in elite female athletes. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2014;99(11):4328-4335
- True, but largely irrelevant. There is no evidence that Khelif has XY chromosomes aside from an accusation by one corrupt Russian boxing official, made after Khelif beat a Russian boxer. They have not produced the test, said where it was done or what the results were.
  Here's an AP News article with lots of information on the IBA and why their claims about Khelif are suspect: https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-khelif-russia-boxing-b53b1edda21139d14a572bd35ca440e6
  
  Someone in reply to me above inadvertently showed a very simple reason why they're suspect by trying to prove they had accurate testing by sending me to the IBA's own press release, which stated:
  Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential.
  They won't even say how they tested her or who they administered the test. Just "we tested them, but not for testosterone, and believe us when we say the test results of the type of test we won't tell you they took say they're women."
  And people keep telling me this is about testosterone. So if they weren't tested by the IBA for testosterone, why does testosterone matter?
- This simply indicates that this genetic makeup is advantageous in sports. I would imagine the average height and weight for both genders is probably out of the norm by a wide margin too.
  
  xy genetics are kinda like crack for physical activity. It's probably one of the widest gaps between the biological sexs. xy sexed individuals have a large advantage unless under long term and early hormone suppression
- I'd also be interested in 46,XX athletes actually
I read the article and I still don’t get it. Why are these people not allowed to compete as women? Do they identify as men?
- No. They identify as women. The IOC agrees. We don't know how they were tested or what the test results actually were by the IBA since they aren't being open about it. But it doesn't matter because the IOC doesn't accept IBA results.
  What's funny is that a lot of the people arguing that these two women shouldn't be competing with other women here on Lemmy keep arguing about sporting rules while ignoring the IOC's saying that rules aren't being violated.
  So much furor over two athletes in a sport which, I believe, has not even gotten to the medal stage yet. They may both be out by then.
  I wish the people so upset over these two would spend more time being upset about things like China doing a shitload of covert doping. That is an unfair advantage that they don't seem to give two shits about. Because "man boxing women."
- Not sure about Lin Yu-ting but Imame was born female. Algeria does not allow transitioning so even if she wanted to transition, she could not legally. People are freaking out because the loser complained that she was fighting a 'man' because she lost so bad. She let her guard down and then leaned into a right hook. Por course that is going to fuck you up.
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- The IOC leader
Extremely rare win by the IOC.

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