The harsh truth is...
The harsh truth is...
That Reddit will not shut down. It will take the hit and go on and probably make at least some money. Only, it will be a much different place, more like Facebook or Instagram, in that it will be full of ads and less specific information.
It will cease to be a different, often niche space and become just another, more generalized social for a more generalized public.
In short: we, aka the people who migrated, simply are not their intended target anymore.
On the subject, I found @gonzo0815 's post very interesting and more detailed than my summary😅 (link https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/25185/A-few-thoughts-about-the-blackout-and-the-future-development)
Let's not poison ourself, thinking on "how to make them pay". Let's move on, and enjoy the new internet spaces we are building!
I don't think the point of the protest was ever to shut down reddit
It would've been a welcome outcome from my side.
Of course Reddit won't shut down. Neither Tumblr nor Yahoo did. It never was the point.
Let's just hope the users who came here for the time the storm pass will find the content they want, or the patience for time their community grows.
Let's enjoy Lemmy for what it is. An opportunity for a restart of what we loved so much on Reddit, with the comforting feeling that no one will ever be able to corrupt it.
Strongly agree with both yours and OP's sentiments. There's little use dwelling on Reddit now, and we have something really special starting here on Lemmy / Kbin / the Fediverse.
It's been great to see various communities grow and adapt to the changes since this all took off.
Of course it won't shut down.
Reddit can remove the mods of any sub at any time and simply open the subs back up. They are allowing them to remain shut now as a PR move because it's a worse look if they take them back by force. But make no mistake - that's what will happen in the long run.
The thing that is really going to hurt Reddit in the long run is that all of the Reddit links on Google are "breaking" - if someone searches something and a Reddit post comes up as a result, there is about a 7/10 chance that the sub is private and the post isn't visible. This will hurt Reddit badly in the long run because Google will remove these results if they stay that way for, say 2 - 3 weeks. Then Reddit loses the ad revenue and new user capture they were getting from organic Google traffic. They can't simply get that back by reopening the subs, either - once those pages are downranked on Google, it will be difficult for them to rebuild the traction to get a high listing. Some have been there for 10+ years.
Absolutely love this attitude. Reddit won’t change, and that’s ok. Let’s be the change we want to see ❤️
The Reddit we all used to know is dead and gone. It used to be an incredibly flexible platform for developers, mods, and users but apparently it's not "profitable" enough to keep that. Reminds me of how Apple designs their platforms; keep users in a predefined box and make it very difficult to customize the user experience meaningfully.
I still prefer for Reddit to exist though. If not for anything else but to keep bots, spam, and malicious users away from smaller sites and overloading them. I am not too upset that the remaining Reddit mods will have to deal with that.
Yup. I think that's the approach. If your done with Reddit and deleted your account then why spare a thought for it. I don't care if it goes down or not, it's not longer my platform. This is where I am at for now.
However all of us got to put in the work of this thing is going to work out. Participate where you can and promote the existence of this option to others.
The apps still need work and somthing has got to be done about the whole "Lenny devs support the cpp" nonsense. I find that one was making it tricky to bring newcomers our way. I'm just going to be patient as possible with all that. I'm sure all the devs and mods are working their butts off for us and will deal with that when they can.
I'll make my full decision when the 30th comes round, but why not use KBin?
I honestly just hadn't looked into it yet. The information I was finding on reddit alternatives was sparse, and i honestly expected reddit to come to its senses before things got this bad.
I saw Lemmy was open source and got myself into it before hearing about any controversies. But I should do my research in KBin as well, the site has been popping up in my feeds a lot. people seem to be hoping for a sort of merger between lemmy and kbin, or at least some sort of cross access between the two.
I'll get on that when i am able to.
If lemmy is an issue for some, send them to kbin instead. It doesn't matter where in the fediverse they come in at, as long as they are in the fediverse.
I agree. IMO, guess it's better to let them be.
The path reddit is now taking is the same one as big media websites focused on the impressionable masses. Just a content dump.
I know it's hard for us, yet, we've grown way more than just a hobby project, so, something good might come out of us, people that didn't quite abandon reddit in soul.
The quality over there will get even worse and here we have a chance to build something new and better.
That's kind of been my attitude around all of this. I've been here before, when everyone left Digg.com back in the day for Reddit (oh the irony!).
It's time to move on. I'm happy to have stumbled onto these fediverse communities. It's a bit jarring, but I'm learning.
I think the fediverse has reached the critical mass needed to definitely take off, no matter what happens with Reddit. It may continue, but as communities grow over here this will be a permanent alternative, and not only 'while we are mad at reddit'.
I, personally, only browsed reddit through sync. The web and official app are unbearable and I couldn't get myself to use them even if there wasn't an alternative.
100% this. There are tens of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of people in the fediverse now. That is PLENTY to get these communities going. They will only continue to grow. And as people have choice, and they see this as a better platform than reddit (which it is, and will become even more so in the future), people will slowly stop going to reddit, and starting going here. Reddit won't die, not overnight. But it's peaked. And it's only downhill for reddit from here on out.
Who cares? I actually think that even though this is ultimately a bad decision on Reddit's part, they are well within their right to make it.
I guess I'm not the intended audience of reddit anymore, but all I am is someone that wants to have a conversation with other people on the internet without getting interrupted by ads, while using a client that I like. I even was willing to pay money for this, and I did pay for the pro relay app, but since reddit is breaking compatibility with it, it is time to move on to the fediverse. I want to have more ownership of my content anyway, and I am an IT engineer anyway, so it is time to make that happen. Self host my own instance and participate on other instances.
it will be full of ads and less specific information. It will cease to be a different, often niche space and become just another, more generalized social for a more generalized public
If you asked me to describe a dead reddit, that's how I would do it. I honestly don't know if Kbin will be better, but it definitely can't be worse, so I'm willing to give it a try.
I would've been really naïve to think otherwise.
Nothing as big as reddit dies overnight
I was on Fark for tennish years until I wasn't interested in the direction they were taking and moved to Reddit where I eventually made a profile. Now, some 11 years later, Reddit is going in a direction I'm not interested in, so I've moved to kbin.
Whether Reddit (and Fark) carry on is irrelevant to me.
The Snoo Platform will stay, but in such a degraded state after mass exodus.
I think the thing it reminds me a lot of is the Freenode drama. Especially with reddit apparently now threatening to take dark subreddits.