In Star Trek, Commander Data is socially awkward because he lacks training data. This might be because he was built and developed in isolation from the rest of society.
He also learned more social skills with experience during the show, but retained some level of awkwardness from his early experiences. This is in line with how people work.
Technically he's a Spock stand in: hyper logical but not quite getting humanity.
This characteristic... In fact lots of characteristics get shared and mix and matched across DS9, TNG, and Voyager.
In Voyager Seven of Nine and The Doctor are the "not quite understanding humanity" characters. In DS9, it's Odo.
Ideally newer Trek would do this too, but it might also want to have:
A quirky or modded engineer: LaForge, O'Brien, Scotty, Be'lana.
A superior strength character: Spock, Data, Odo, Worf, Seven of Nine, Tuvok.
...and maybe a couple of psychic characters, Spock, Kes, Tuvok, Seven of Nine, Benjamin.
You'll probably also need some mentally brilliant characters, a Klingon, and someone who doesn't fit in due to a negative background and is jaded about it.
...a brilliant doctor helps too.
These characteristics are needed so you can write certain storyline types and stand alone episodes.
Or he's awkward because they trained his AI off Reddit comments.
Had they done it with Xitter, the result would have been a total racist.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist
"this"
Not wrong.
Also, I was alot older than when I first watched the series.....that the entire Data vs Lore monkier went right over my head....
.....Even when ST:TNG S1E13 is litterly titled "Datalore".
Took season 3 of Picard for me to get it finally. 🤔🤯
Took season 3 of Picard for me to get it finally. 🤔🤯
For those of us who don't watch the Nu Trek stuff, could you elaborate?
ST:P S308 "Surrender".
Data/B4/Lore were all partitioned in the same positronic brain that was in a "new" Data body.
And Lore and Data had an internal fight over the body.
Also you really should give Strange New Worlds a try at least.
IMO S1/2 of Picard is retconned dumpster fire for the most part. 3 was a bit redeemed/its own story Arc.
You consider TNG to be Nu Trek? I typically consider TOS, TNG, and DS9 to be the OGs.
Home schooled. Socially awkward. Hmm. /s
He lacks emotions. He can't understand what others are feeling because he doesn't feel things. He was built and developed with the human colonists where Soong worked. He lived with them, and their input shaped his programming; he was not kept in isolation apart from the society around them (though he did have those memories wiped when Soong implanted the memories of the colonists when the Crystalline Entity attacked). The only thing he lacks is an emotional understanding, since he has no emotions.
He also attended Starfleet Academy. You'd think he'd have done some socializing there. Maybe taken a couple psych classes.
That was one of my thoughts, the amount of social data he could get from Starfleet Academy would be huge. Its not like he needed to study the material. I guess there's an argument that Data was only as social as he was because of the academy. Or maybe the computation needed to make the officer decisions are much more intensive than we think, contrary to what Lower Decks shows heh,kidding I love that show.
Yeah, but Data is actually intelligent and brilliant. ChatGPT is often just giving best averaged answers based on what's most likely - and still hallucinates even in the latest version.
I haven't used it, but it happens even in the demo they showed.
Oh honey, let me tell you, he is NOT lacking any training data.
Could’ve sworn Data was built specifically to be that way because the prior model unnerved people, and also conspired to kill an entire camp of federation colonists.
Correct. Lore was too human in some ways, but he lacked empathy.
You can't have empathy if you don't have emotions.