They want us to riot so bad. They are foaming at the mouth trying to justify enacting Martial Law and every day it feels like its more and more inevitable that we will end up there. Either they are going to keep violating the constitution and getting away with it until they don't need to enact it, or eventually shit hits the fan at a protest. I don't see any other option at this point. They are taunting us, and it's going to work eventually.
You are 100% correct, that is definitely the plan. Have the RedHats instigate violence, then call in the military to quell the violence with even more ferocious violence, and Hegseth will definitely give the order to fire on American citizens. It will be like Tiananmen Square, but in cities all over America. Once he has declared Martial Law, he can suspend elections until peace is restored, and since he will control the peace.
The 2026 midterms are shaping up to be a bloodbath, and he can't afford to lost one or both chambers to the Democrats, where they can have control of investigative committees, with subpoena and arrest powers.
So he has to time it right, so the courts and SCOTUS wont have time to react before election day. That means next summer/fall. By then, Luigi's trial will be in play, many more activities will be criminalized, he will have sent Americans to El Salvador, the first stage of the 30,000 bed facility in Gitmo may be open (or soon), he will have imprisoned political opponents, store shelves will be empty, other goods will be tripled in price, we'll be in a deep recession, there will be food shortages, etc. Anything is possible, but it will all add up to public outrage like we have never seen, and he will take full advantage of it to end our system of government, and become a one more incompetent Dictator.
the ironic thing is that the us govt has done a ton of studies on the 'breaking point of society'. but they're not science bros, so they're just gonna do it their way.
even the canada thing. he's literally costing himself a canadian conservative govt that was all-but guaranteed. but he doesn't want that with canada; he just wants (edit-typo) manufactured conflict.
but you're absolutely right. he's doing everything he can to cause riots so that he can enact "marshall" law and crack down once and for all. my god, why can't my american neigbours all see it?
Update. That election ultimately did end up in a conservative loss. In no small part to the trump attitudes on geopolitics and the nonexistent "culture war"
i just wrote a whole fucking paragraph, hit send, and it disappeared. i need to remember to write my shit in a text editor when i'm on lemmy.
i defy anyone to show me any other reason that this historic swing solely due to the actions of one particular idiot.
i went on in my first draft to describe how politics in canada still have some nuance, and that this was an indication that TONS of people who were ready to kick red to the curb had to hold their noses to vote for our sovereignty.
but - to me - this shouldn't be the way things should be going. i agree with a lot of people in that the liberal party really needed a reckoning. if harris won in the us, i'd have been fine with a conservative pm. but pp definitely didn't do himself any favours, either, and it would have been a lot of OTHER people holding their noses to vote pc. hell, i've been impressed with doug ford lately, and i didn't think i'd ever say that.
so now that i've typed this up in xed, we'll see how many tries it takes to get it to stick. my guess, given my luck, is that it'll work on the fucking first try now.
not science bros, so they're just gonna do it their way.
i just think they’re petulant children with absolutely no self control
trump literally as old as he is right now would take the marshmallow in the stanford marshmallow experiment, and then try and convince someone that you stole his other marshmallow
I don't think they want it. Numbers aren't in their favor. We aren't remotely close to Russian or Chinese levels of generational suppression.
But they likely don't know they don't want it. They assume they will get absolute power one way or the other because China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc have absolute power in their state.
I doubt the Tiananmen Square massacre would have been nearly as effective with the speed at which information flows nowadays. Sure - major corporate media can suppress as much as it can, but millions of people were able to turn out for protests quickly, and think of how fast we all found out about the arrest of two judges.
Against any totalitarian government, the most effective weapon is information, followed closely by communication. I am willing to bet that there isn't code sitting on our phones waiting for the government to just shut it all down.
I dunno if this is anyone else but me, but, in the US this weekend, I heard a radio advertisement on our local Clear Channel / CBS station that was just a guy without music, forcefully stating that "tariffs are a matter of national security."
That was honestly so surreal that I wasn't sure if I had imagined it.
One time I was at the internet place picking up a new router. The internet in the area had just gone down and angry people were literally coalescing upon the store like zombies.
Godspeed to anyone who turns the data off to America
I appreciate that this "riots are part of their plan" post acknowledges that not rioting just means a bloodless coup. People keep putting this argument up like the optimal move is just continually not taking the bait under the assumption that some easy solution will eventually come to fruition, but it's just the frog arguing for boiling itself. They're not going to just have four years of people letting them do whatever they want and then run free and fair elections because we didn't take the bait.
It's a great strategy, either we riot and they bring out the army, or we do nothing and they get what they want unopposed.
"The second American revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it"
The threat of Martial Law is a conspiracy theory at best. There aren't nearly enough troops AND police to institute it. Stop trying to pretend it's even possible
The US is notoriously bad at dealing with insurgencies. Toppling a government/military is what the military is designed for, and has shown to be able to do in a matter of weeks, but stamping out an armed populace afterwards has always been where they falter. The US would be the most heavily armed insurgency to ever exist. More guns than people here
Yes, there are. 80% of the population can be controlled on mere threats alone. The rest can be dealt with by the authorities.
Besides, it isnt about whether its possible or not, its all about them believing that they can. If HitlerPig wants to do it, his henchmen know that they have to enthusiastically agree and call him the greatest strategist in the world, or they are out of a job (at best). So they'll tell him its possible.
I was 21 years old on Christmas Eve in 2008 when I got a call that my best friend died in Iraq. This instigated a decade and a half long bout of alcoholism that I still fight. I'd die to be a teenage kid in my parent's house. I've been in the streets. What have you done?
edit - i've been informed that i've replied to the wrong comment.
cringe. you should probably at least look into someone's recent comments before you make your comments. i'm canadian, and there's no doot aboot it. but what the heck does that have to do with the point i made? for what it's worth, i grew up in tennessee, so maybe i'm just another dirty immigrant?
i'm lots of fun at parties. i've edited my post to preface that my comment is asinine, because i feel like everyone needs to see what stupid comments look like.