Technology @lemmy.world brbposting @sh.itjust.works 1mo ago

Update: IRS successfully launches their own free Direct File - now ALL of my fellow 'murcans are eligible for 2025

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The catch is that it requires ID.me, and there is no way in hell I'm giving some third party a picture of my fucking drivers license.
- I hope more scrutiny is given to ID.me. I'll only be using Direct File if they remove it as a dependency.
- Seems odd. They've been pushing login.gov like everywhere.
  
  It will eventually be supported, and in the interim they have stated that they won't keep biometric data obtained through ID.me once a verification is completed, or you can opt for an online interview where no biometrics are collected in the first place.
  
  https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-statement-new-features-put-in-place-for-irs-online-account-registration-process-strengthened-to-ensure-privacy-and-security
  
  Who knows if ID.me will actually delete the data on their end though, or if the online interview is recorded by the provider.
  
  Government biometric requirements really aren't a joke. They perform pretty regular audits and the liability of not deleting ID could be company ending.
  
  They might not delete your biometrics, but I'd be shocked if they didn't. It's far more likely that they not only delete it but have an audit trail proving deletion.
  
  @huginn @binomialchicken let’s just say they have the feeling of an extremely sketchy organization. They actually started verifying ids for government employees for in-store discounts (like 10% off for active duty service and such). And somehow that migrated into being the government’s sole identity verification provider for citizens.
  
  I even had to make a login.gov account to apply to some federal jobs (ironically enough one was with the IRS even!)
  
  On a related note, it appears based on their job listings that the IRS will not hire anyone who owes them money
- …to print my ID in the first place?
  
  (But yes clearly worse to allow personal data to be stored in an additional system.)
  
  Right, my government also gave me a number at my birth. They know where I live, they know how much I make and where I work. The third party, ID.me, definitely does NOT need any of my information, since the entity that is taxing me, already does.
  
  Depressing thought: there’s a remote possibility the government is inept enough trying to roll around verification system that a third party has a safer solution.
  
  Positive thinking: maybe the government is just using a third party until they’ve had time to make their own service entirely bombproof. Let’s go with that for our sake.
  
  And then ID.me becomes the new TurboTax and starts lobbying the government to not compete with them.
  
  Noooooooooooo
  
  The problem is that given all of the data breaches, anyone can use your social security number, address, etc. and file a return on your behalf.
  
  In theory, that's what ID.me is preventing.
  
  But if your wallet gets stolen, good luck.
- Interesting that third parties like TurboTax aren't required to obtain copies of your photo ID.
  
  I looked it up, and there is an article from the end of last year that says they are about to be required or are already required.
  
  I can't recall ever putting my license on one of these tax preppers, but I am also older and more privacy concerned in my older age, so I would definitely not do it now.
  
  At that point, might be better to hand-file your return. In many of these programs they offer you the ability to print and mail your return.
  
  Your refund takes longer of course.
  
  Eh, I’ve only gotten like $20 back max the last three years. They can take as long as they want, I will not be giving any third parties anything that they truly do not need.
- Why, do they sell data?
  
  It would not surprise me in the least, but more importantly, if they get breached and they have sloppy mechanisms in place, my license could be fully out there in the wild. May be whatever to some, but I think it’s too risky to trust some company with it that also has contracts with the government itself.
  
  ID.me offers numerous identity verification products,[9] supplied by third parties. For "high-assurance" identity verification, the company verifies personal data, including drivers' licenses, passports, and social security numbers.[21] Users must also take a video selfie with their phones, using the ID.me photo app.[1] If ID.me fails to verify users through this information, users are directed to talk to a "Trusted Referee" video call.[22] ID.me users have expressed frustration due to long delays on its video call line
  
  Wouldn't they need to already have your data to check your driver's license against it?
- Huh, I already signed up for it because they started requiring it a while back to access historical tax return documents through the IRS website.
- I had to use that for my unemployment insurance claims.

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