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  • @MapAmore
    I use @openstreetmap a lot, via #OSMAnd+, and I'd love to give back to the map commons. The biggest problems I see are not with the basic data (streets etc), since the NZ govt's own map data is released under CC license, and updates to it are quickly imported into #OSM.

    Rather what I see is outdated info about what can be found at a given address. Any advice of helping to update that kind of data? Is it part of OSM or other data commons used by OSMAnd+?

    OpenStreetMap

    @everydoor

  • @regalia
    I recommend actually looking at what it looks like on the site, it’s extremely different then how it looks on mastodon

    Yes, I'm familiar. I've been following Lemmy development for several years, as part of research for fediverse.party. That's the background to my comments about the algorithm determining what appears on a Lemmy front page.

    If you're proposing that there's a more complicated algorithm at work, what do you think it is?

  • @regalia
    the algo for active/hot favor large communties, so smaller ones tend not to show up on the front page

    I presume it's the same as what determines which posts appear on the front page of a Mastodon server; chronological order of posts. That would favour the larger communities, since people post there more often.

    The other limiting factor, I presume, is a Lemmy server only knows about the communities its accounts are members of. Larger communities will have members on more servers.

  • @regalia
    our algo doesn’t do a good job of promoting smaller communities

    Lemmy has an algo for that?

    @SupraMario

  • @deadsuperhero
    development of a Go-based backend implementation, Dendrite

    Also Rust-based homeserver implementations like Construct and Conduit. Both of which are usable, although missing a few nice-to-have added features. Eg Conduit is still working on;

    "E2EE emoji comparison over federation (E2EE chat works)... Outgoing read receipts, typing, presence over federation"

    @Terevos @Samsy

  • @deadsuperhero
    the reference implementation everyone uses by default is known to be bloated and slow, and poor at scaling

    This doesn't seem to stop the fediverse growing (cough Mastodon cough).

    @Terevos

  • @smileyhead
    But noone figured out how to prevent that in federated systems

    You've basically got a choice been a centralised service where metadata can be limited but E2EE is mostly pointless (you have to trust the service operators' E2EE deployment), or a decentralised network where E2EE is reliable, but it's harder to limit metadata.

    Which one is best depends on the situation/ threat model.

    @AngryDemonoid

  • @Rambi
    but how come your username says @null?

    No idea. Maybe a bug in your app? Maybe something to do with the fact I'm posting from a Mastodon server rather than Lemmy server?

  • @theKalash
    Lemmy neads a feature where people can “merge” communities from different instances so it appears like a single one

    I'm confused by this. I'll admit I haven't used Lemmy much yet, but I thought communities do exist across all servers? So if I join "c/fediverse" on any one server, and you join "c/fediverse" on any other server, we're joining the same community. Is that not how it works?

    @Blaze

  • @itadakimasu
    Plus, the Lemmy servers are part of a much larger network; the fediverse. Not just other forum apps like KBin either. Right now I'm replying to this from Mastodon.

    I have an alt on a .nz Lemmy server, but haven't got into the habit of using it yet. So at least some of the perceived shrinkage is due to that, rather than any failure of the network. Also due to spam and troll accounts being purged.

    (2/2)

    @Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

  • @itadakimasu
    there’s only 60k of us? And that’s a good thing?

    A centralised platform is a numbers game. The money for upgrading servers for growth has to come from one company, and if the platform shrinks it gets harder to get a return on that spending.

    It just doesn't matter as much in a federated network. The cost of growth is spread across many servers. Some of which will end up shutting down, for a range of reasons. But others have room for growth.

    (1/2)

    @Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

  • @MyopicTopic
    very few people have an entire extended friend group looking to figure out what a decentralized federated Facebook would entail

    Indeed. It's a real swiss army knife of a platform, hard to even spec out a replacement. I had a go at that here a few years ago:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20201023210758/https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/public-webspace

    I'm sure I wrote out a more developed summary of this as a blog post, but I can't find it right now.

    @DaisyLee @deadsuperhero

  • @lackthought
    I was just looking at Matrix, are there community servers like on discord people can join? or is it all private rooms?

    There are loads of public rooms on matrix, eg:
    https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-city:matrix.org

    FYI what Discord calls a "server" is actually just a group of chat channels and their pool of members. The equivalent of a Discord "server" on matrix is a "Space". This blog post is a couple of years old out-of-date, but it gives you the general idea:

    https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/17/the-matrix-space-beta/

    @hiajen

  • @Bicyclejohn
    my peers are too tiktok obsessed

    What is it that attracts them to TikTok? The features and user experience, or the pool of people and content they can find there? Or something else?