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  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • perform away! please keep in mind that Lemmy and ActivityPub are communities, and the only proof of intent we have is through action. a change in policy might feel performative, but it gives me something I can boost as a positive example and a sign that things will be better going forward.

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • I’d rather make this a learning moment than a purging moment.

    absolutely! please show me you’ve learned from this moment by taking a stance against the use of LLMs anywhere in the moderation process and making it part of your instance’s policies going forward.

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • fuck off with this equivocating shit

    piefed banned the user by, uhhhh, reading their posts like a fucking normal person

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • The admin took the decision to ban the user irrespective of the LLM, and the rest of our admin team and me specifically, would never let an admin become a “human in the loop”. The LLM was used just to summarize

    you don’t appear to have much understanding of how a human in the loop system works in practice. LLM summaries are used to confirm biases, especially when the prompt is something along the lines of “do these posts contain

    <negative term>

    ?” though these systems are stochastic so you’re going to get unpredictable biases regardless of the prompt.

    I don’t accept that the LLM summary didn’t influence the decision because the mod in question confirmed that he knew the LLM agreed with him (that’s bias, and also not something LLMs are capable of actually doing) and because if it didn’t, then the summary is worthless

    which is why maybe you should just not have them in the future? just don’t touch LLMs when you’re doing mod work. either there’s no reason for it or you’re doing something monstrously wrong.

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • cool! please make it clear to the mod in question that they shouldn’t be using an LLM for anything in the future, even summarizing posts. make it part of your instance’s policies.

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • why are you going to bat for someone using unofficial tooling that proved to be extremely unpopular because it was used in a manner that looked like abuse to most observers and qualifies as abuse for instances like ours? it feels kind of rich to come here angry when other people are asking you to stop. maybe you can just take our word for it that we don’t want an LLM anywhere in the moderation process, even as a post summarizer? you don’t have to understand why if you don’t want to.

    and yeah you absolutely can lie about this crap. it kind of makes it worse that you and your mod felt they didn’t have to. we really don’t want any of this normalized on any level.

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • assume I know and understand that the LLM did not literally do the banning

    maybe there’s a large body of existing research on how even human in the loop systems confirm and worsen biases? maybe it’s a bit obvious when you go through the process the moderator took to get to their decisions in your head? slowly now, maybe you’ll get there

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • think very carefully on this because I’m not sure pretending to not understand what I’m asking is working out for you

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • no but you’re about to be talking to a defed unless you stop this all caps fake outrage shit. should I do you the favor of deleting the garbage post you just made so you can give it another go?

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • Finally, just because I included an LLM summary of the comment history in the public modlog, it does not logically follow that the ban occurred because of the LLM summary. It simply happened to correspond very well to my own manual review

    yeah, it’s ok because the LLM wasn’t hooked up directly to the ban API, you just used it systemically to not do the only fucking thing you’re supposed to be doing as a moderator

    this human in loop shit is how corporations absolve themselves of responsibility for decisions taken purely on the word of an LLM. it lets them fire a worker instead of an executive. you’re sure this is the route you want to go?

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • you thought I’d be ok with this shit because it was done with an allegedly open source model? I’m so glad you ignored all our posts about unchecked algorithmic bias and the fucking rotten origins of every open source model (hint: you don’t have the resources to train a model because you aren’t a billion-dollar company and that’s by design) because moderating your instances appropriately was ooh just too haard

    my guy what in the fuck are we doing here? more to the point what are you doing here?

  • what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on

  • no it’s fine you see, they fed the posts in question to a homegrown open source LLM (still trained on plagiarized sources by a gigantic corporation as part of an extremely obvious market domination plan) and only pretended to feed a ton of posts to chatgpt as a joke that nobody laughed at

    moderator’s note to anyone who came here to make the above point in earnest: lol

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 10th May 2026

  • it’s so fucking funny to me that “do not lie do not hallucinate” is still one of the prompt incantations the boosters use because they get really embarrassed when you make fun of them for it

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 10th May 2026

  • thank you! I hear a rumor that my fiber might be repaired tomorrow but I’m not sure if I should trust it

    (also for posterity: all evidence points to my fiber being damaged by an animal or a human with the mechanical dexterity of an animal, I’m fairly sure it’s not particularly targeted sabotage)

  • OpenAI advisor: ‘adult mode’ risks becoming ‘sexy suicide coach’

  • if for whatever reason you need example text of the mid phases of someone being driven out of their fucking mind by a chatbot, the above will do nicely

  • AI companies try to pay staff in AI tokens, not money

  • adding to the confusion, the shithead who replied with “thanks, blocked” is, I’m fairly certain, already banned from our instance

    anyway yeah the lemmy/mastodon interop has many sharp edges

  • AI companies try to pay staff in AI tokens, not money

  • oxy is a mastodon user who follows David so they’re most likely telling the AI startups in question to GTFO and lemmy has kindly reinterpreted that as a tag

    however,

    Why are people hating on / blocking dgerard?

    let’s go down the list! depending on the subculture, you’re blocking dgerard because:

    • you’re a Scientologist and interacting with dgerard will cost you your Operating Thetan rank
    • you’re a Rationalist and have read the Lightcone Infrastructure memo about how dgerard is the devil, beating out all other contenders for most evil being on the earth
    • you’re a cryptocurrency gambler and you think dgerard’s critiques lost you money
    • you run an AI startup and you think dgerard’s critiques lost you money
    • you’re on the far right and dgerard won’t let you edit misinformation straight into Wikipedia

    there are more, we can go deeper

  • Survey results are in! AI is more hated than ICE! (but less hated than the Democratic Party)

  • here’s the summary table that the article pulled its numbers from

    here’s a specific question regarding AI

  • Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 15th March 2026

  • FreeAssembly @awful.systems
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    an open letter to the NixOS foundation

    save-nix-together.org
  • TechTakes @awful.systems
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    the tea protocol is still predictably a gigantic source of PR spam

    www.web3isgoinggreat.com
  • FreeAssembly @awful.systems
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    thread your Philthy feature requests

  • FreeAssembly @awful.systems
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    ask me questions about awful.systems or NixOS!

    codeberg.org /awful-systems/awful-systems
  • FreeAssembly @awful.systems
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    the r/SneerClub archive welcomes contributions

    codeberg.org /awful-systems/sneer-archive-site
  • FreeAssembly @awful.systems
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    Philthy, the awful.systems fork of Lemmy, is seeking contributors

    codeberg.org /awful-systems
  • FreeAssembly @awful.systems
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    welcome to FreeAssembly: a non-toxic collaborative community

  • TechTakes @awful.systems
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    Amazon’s 'Just Walk Out' grocery stores are dead

    gizmodo.com /amazon-reportedly-ditches-just-walk-out-grocery-stores-1851381116
  • important instance shit @awful.systems
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    flag any spam you see from lemmy.world (or elsewhere)

  • NotAwfulTech @awful.systems
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    the Amaranth hardware description language

    amaranth-lang.org
  • NotAwfulTech @awful.systems
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    Integrated Tech Solutions, by Aesop Rock

    aesoprock.bandcamp.com /album/integrated-tech-solutions
  • TechTakes @awful.systems
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    a self driving car burns in San Francisco. the orange site can’t decide which racist trope to blame

    news.ycombinator.com /item
  • TechTakes @awful.systems
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    as it turns out, a mountain of health woo and transfusing your teenage son’s blood into yourself is no match for long covid

    www.donotpanic.news /p/the-billionaire-who-wants-to-live
  • important instance shit @awful.systems
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    upgrade: lemmy 0.19.3

  • important instance shit @awful.systems
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    clear your browser cache and cookies!

    upgrade: lemmy 0.19.2 + infrastructure

  • important instance shit @awful.systems
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    lemmy upgrade to 0.19.2 and downtime January 13 at 11 PM GMT

    awful.systems is updating its priors

  • TechTakes @awful.systems
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    some AI jackasses decided to reanimate George Carlin’s corpse and make it say embarrassing shit

    www.usatoday.com /story/entertainment/2024/01/10/george-carlin-ai-comedy-special/72174280007/
  • Buttcoin @awful.systems
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    DIDcomm: what happens when you let crypto folks into your web standards org

    identity.foundation /didcomm-messaging/spec/
  • important instance shit @awful.systems
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    defed: threads (and commemorative cocktail recipe!)

  • NotAwfulTech @awful.systems
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    A Tour of Nix: an interactive tutorial for the Nix language in your browser

    nixcloud.io /tour/