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  • All I’m arguing. All I’ve been arguing the entire time, is that you are broadening definitions of words to include people they otherwise would not. Apparently you don’t feel it’s sufficient to call them accomplices (you got close with your murder example on this one), enablers, cult members, or any of the other countless words and phrases we have that would be accurate.

    You’ve made it pretty clear that you don’t actually want to argue that point, and yet you’re still here.

  • A pedophile is anyone who participates in the sexual abuse of underage people.

    I see, so is "participates" the word you want to argue about now?

    If Trump was openly committing murder, and MAGA voters were supporting it and defending it, I absolutely would accuse them of murder

    For the sake of argument, let's assume that Luigi Mangione did in fact kill Brian Thompson. Are all of the people who support him murderers?

    I absolutely would accuse them of murder.

    You can accuse anybody of whatever you like. Doesn't make it so.

  • Those characterizations depend on circumstances.

    Pedophile doesn’t though?

    A felon needs to have convicted of a felony.

    Agreed.

    Rapist? Sure, that applies to Trump, and I usually include it. Frankly, it was oversight, so feel free to add it to my list. AreAGAs rapists? Probably not technically, but they are Rapist adjacent. Apparently they support rape.

    Fully agreed.

    Who's "redefining" anything?

    What is your definition of pedophile?

    This entire conversation is around your change of the definition of this word to include these asshats instead of just conceding they are “pedophile adjacent.”

  • I see you didn’t say they were felons, rapists, con men, racketeers, etc. Are they these things too?

    No, I apply all those words to MAGAs

    So to be clear, you do consider all of maga to be felons, rapists, con men, and racketeers?

    It’s confusing because you used a completely different set of words from the ones I did.

    Or is it only the things they “are” instead of things they “do?”

    Your line for when you decide to redefine a word just seems arbitrary.

  • Ok, but if I support somebody who is protecting LGBTQ+ folks, does that make me LGBTQ+ or is it only the bad things that are transitive?

    I see you didn’t say they were felons, rapists, con men, racketeers, etc. Are they these things too?

    words mean things

    Supporting people who do abhorrent things is bad. Inexcusable even. It does not necessarily make you those things.

  • Ah, so you’re just applying it to this one word.

    These same supporters are not; con men, obstructionists, felons, rapists, liars, insurrectionists, fraudsters, racketeers, etc etc. just pedophiles.

    It's so simple, even a MAGA pedophile like you can understand it.

    I’m not, but thanks for playing. Surely even a pedophile like you (I’ve changed the definition to include you) can understand that somebody can say “words mean things” without being a pedophile.

  • I was an extremely picky eater as a kid.

    Bitching and screaming when told I had to eat my veggies, all that stuff.

    Wasn’t until I moved out for college that I realized that a lot of that came from the fact that my moms cooking was shite.

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