Ahdok @ ahdok @ttrpg.network

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Some of us never left the 80s

Nine.

That's okay, I'm just a little exasperated haha

I know people like to "well actually" me after every single comic I post here, but give me at least a little credit...

I do take 5 minutes to check the rules before I spend multiple hours drawing a joke about them.

Umm... actually recalling information is INT.

The first line under "intelligence" in the PHB is:

"An Intelligence check comes into play when you need to draw on logic, education, memory, or deductive reasoning."

Hell, even the keen mind feat, which gives you perfect memory for a month, gives you INT.

I don't want to remember.

That's just how Konsi is... more INT makes the imposter syndrome stronger.

The perfect diet food, maybe?

I think that, generally speaking, food that's magically generated for a temporary period of time counts as "real" if you eat it - you get the nutrition from it. (c.f. Magnificent Mansion) - which raises interesting questions about the metaphysics of DnD.

This adds a whole new dimension to "chewing the furniture"

I realized when typing the title, if I didn't mention fireball, everyone would say fireball. :)

StackExchange has an interesting observation here, with people discussing this issue. I thought it interesting, so I'm reposting it here for consideration.

The general definition of "an object" says that "a building" is not a single object, it's a structure composed of many other objects. But a "bridge" is essentially a building, commonly a structure composed of many objects - and a bridge is one of the specific examples given.

"Clothes" is also one of the examples, not "an outfit" or "a piece of clothing" just "clothes."

I think, the wording is unclear - it never specifies that you can "only" make one object, it just lists some objects you can make, and uses plurals in a bunch of places. I've always read this as "you can make as much stuff as you have raw materials for"

The other way I would think about this, is that a "feast" or a "banquet" is a conceptual "thing" composed of many parts - but I at least think of a suit of platemail the same way, being familiar with platemail. Indeed some of the objects contained within a suit of platemail are individual objects per the rules:

"A breastplate" is one object, and contained within a suit of armour "Halfplate" is a breastplate, greaves and vambraces, and that's "one object" "Full Plate" is a single object, but it contains within it as a subset, "halfplate" and halfplate contains within it "breastplate"

I don't think "a meal" is really different to this, it could be viewed as a single entry (full meals are costed as single items in the PHB) - or it could be viewed as the sum of its components.

Fundamentally, I think the spell wording is not clear. As a DM, I like to go with simplicity and clarity when making rulings. My main goal is "is this a ruling where all the players understand it with the same meaning" - will my ruling cause further arguments or let us get on with the game.

"You can use the materials to make products made from those materials" as the spell states, and just letting my players have fun with it seems very simple to rule on - do they have enough "stuff" to make the products? That determines whether or not they can do it, and it's a nice clear line that everyone can understand and agree on.

On the other hand, Once you start getting into the situation of "is this a single object or not" it gets very complicated very quickly, and players will start to argue and try to game the system in order to be able to make more stuff. Two swords? well that's two items right? What if the swords were built into a frame and attached by sprue, like model making kits? that one sheet of parts is a single item. How complex a weird single metal object can I forge to get as many different swords as possible out of it?

You allow a suit of armour but not a banquet? I shape my food into the shapes of all the pieces of a suit of armour, and make banquetmail. It's now one object... Edible clothes exist, so what if I just claim all my food objects are clothes now?

I think, the simplest answer is just to go with the simple easy ruling - but check with your DM, they might have their own ideas.

Does that mean you can't fabricate an ice sculpture out of ice or a snowman out of snow?

I think the "finished product" probably should be at whatever temperature we associate with that thing as a "finished product". "a pizza", for example, would be warm - assuming the caster had the skills to make a good pizza. Some objects have a temperature as part of their essence of being "that thing" and if you change them to be room temperature, then they're no longer that thing.

As for "the caster needs to be a proficient chef" we're covered. Konsi is a proficient chef. Personally, I wouldn't allow this for a caster without cook's utensils. (they could make sandwiches though)

As always, check with your DM. People are going to interpret this differently.

Well, again, the spell doesn't ever specify "one object". It does say "products of the same material".

DMs will rule differently, so always check what your DM thinks.

In this case, Aristocratic level meals for a day is a single line on a chart in the PHB, so we're good.

But then so is a level 20 wizard.

This is my solution to the problem :)

Oh no worries, I didn't take this as a demand, I'm just very aware of my limitations. :)

Outside of the ethical issues behind the core technology in imagenet and LAION in the first place, and the ethical issue of scraping all the training data, and the ethical issues of replacing skilled and talented artists with robots built from their work...

Actually the more you think about it... there's a lot of ethical issues with Gen-AI.

Let's pretend we don't care about ethics for the moment. A situation like this is one where many people were going to just steal the art anyway.

One of the other problems with AI art is, it's low quality. Do you care about the quality of the art in the purpose you're using it for? - often for ttrpg monster art, people don't care that much, so it's a purpose that AI art can fulfill.

We're at an interesting point for future Konsi comics now.

I originally scripted out the "date night" comics as a four comics short story arc, and 43 comics later, I think this story arc has reached its conclusion. We've gone from the date invite, through the date itself and to the end of the day. We've also done the denouement jokes now - and at this point we're transitioning out of that specific story arc.

While I've enjoyed this arc, being tied into "keeping the narrative throughline from one comic to the next" is very restrictive, and It'll be nice to be able to jump around in time and place and topic again :)

I wish I could draw faster, but this process takes a lot of steps, and I substitute my lack of raw talent with time spent.