Father kills teen daughter after she refused to delete TikTok account, Pakistan police say
Father kills teen daughter after she refused to delete TikTok account, Pakistan police say
According to police, investigators said the father killed his 16-year-old daughter "for honor" and the victim's family initially tried to portray the murder as a suicide.
Pakistan police on Friday said a father shot dead his daughter after she refused to delete her account on popular video-sharing app TikTok.
In the Muslim-majority country, women can be subjected to violence by family members for not following strict rules on how to behave in public, including in online spaces.
"The girl's father had asked her to delete her TikTok account. On refusal, he killed her," a police spokesperson told AFP.
According to a police report shared with AFP, investigators said the father killed his 16-year-old daughter on Tuesday "for honor." He was subsequently arrested.
It's insane how twisted in the head you have to be to think that killing your daughter is the honorable thing to do!
Religion is harmful to both individuals and society. Extreme religion is extremely harmful to both individuals and society.Note: There is exactly zero religion involved in honor killings; this is a 100% cultural act. Here are some choice quotes from Wikipedia:
Honor killings are primarily associated with the Middle East, the Maghreb and the Indian subcontinent, but they are also rooted in other societies, such as the Philippines, Northern Caucasus, Latin America, East Africa, and historically in Mediterranean Europe.
In French culture, stories about such homicides were romanticized and featured prominently in French literature of the 19th century, and "In literature as in life, unconventional women needed to be severely punished lest their defiant attitudes inspire further acts of rebellion".[33] In Corsica, there was a strong custom of vendetta, which required Corsicans to murder anyone who wronged their family honor. Between 1821 and 1852 approximately 4,300 vendetta killings were perpetrated in Corsica.[34] France also had a strong culture of dueling meant to uphold honor, and France was called by the National Geographic "the dueling capital of Europe".[35]
Though it may seem in a modern context that honor killings are tied to certain religious traditions, the data does not support this claim.[95][93] Research in Jordan found that teenagers who strongly endorsed honor killings in fact did not come from more religious households than teens who rejected it.[93] The ideology of honor is a cultural phenomenon that does not appear to be related to religion, be it Middle Eastern or Western countries, and honor killings likely have a long history in human societies which predate many modern religions.[96] In the US, a rural trend known as the "small-town effect" exhibits elevated incidents of argument-related homicides among white males, particularly in honor-oriented states in the South and the West, where everyone "knows your name and knows your shame." This is similarly observed in rural areas in other parts of the world.
Provocation in English law and related laws on adultery in English law, as well as Article 324 of the French penal code of 1810 were legal concepts which allowed for reduced punishment for the murder committed by a husband against his wife and her lover if the husband had caught them in the act of adultery.[101] On 7 November 1975, Law no. 617/75 Article 17 repealed the 1810 French Penal Code Article 324. The 1810 penal code Article 324 passed by Napoleon was copied by Middle Eastern Arab countries. It inspired Jordan's Article 340 which permitted the murder of a wife and her lover if caught in the act at the hands of her husband (today the article provides for mitigating circumstances).[102] France's 1810 Penal Code Article 324 also inspired the 1858 Ottoman Penal Code's Article 188, both the French Article 324 and Ottoman article 188 were drawn on to create Jordan's Article 340 which was retained even after a 1944 revision of Jordan's laws which did not touch public conduct and family law;[103][104][105] article 340 still applies to this day in a modified form.[102] France's Mandate over Lebanon resulted in its penal code being imposed there in 1943–1944, with the French-inspired Lebanese law for adultery allowing the mere accusation of adultery against women resulting in a maximum punishment of two years in prison while men have to be caught in the act and not merely accused, and are punished with only one year in prison.
So yeah, this is a big problem in many parts of the world and if your reaction to innocent women losing their lives is to make a tired and irrelevant point, then please don't.
Funny then that when they move to another culture, and take it with them, it is always muslims.
One of the core societal demands of the prophet Mohamed, blessings and peace be upon him, was to end the practice of burying daughters alive. At the time a daughter was considered a disgrace, so some pre-islamic Arabs murdered their daughters this way.
The Quran is also very explicit about the rights of women and the correct behavior towards them, something that is often ignored in societies that claim to be muslim, but evidently did not read much.
"OG Islam" is fundamentally opposed to femicide. Femicides aren't a religious but a cultural issue and prevalent outside of religious groups too.
Muhammad wanting to save all the young girls? For himself?
Seems to me that Islam is discriminating strongly against women, and that could absolutely be a factor to prevent this sick culture from being abandoned.
I know there are Muslims who are good people, but I don't think the religion is helping.
I knew many Muslims when I lived in Copenhagen, from many different countries, and common for the men were that they were way more discriminating against women than is normally acceptable among cultural Danes. They also commonly claimed that the women preferred it that way! For instance regarding very stereotypical strong gender roles.
I also don't believe the honor thing is without heavy influence from religion, and religion is helping preserve these medieval standards in modern times.I know there are Muslims that are more modern and more moral, and just like most Christians have abandoned ancient doctrines that are clearly bad.
It just seems to me that Islam has not progressed away from such practices as much as Christianity generally has.
For instance by far the most Muslims still believe apostasy is a sin that should be punished. In a modern society that is unacceptable.
Not sure if this is relevent, but I just wanna share my story.
My mom wants me dead because I have depression.
Not schizophrenia, not sociopathy/psychopathy, just being a little more sad than "normal".
The reasoning? "Because you wouldn't be able to enjoy life anyways, and your life is meaning less", threatning to leave me out of the will because "you can just get welfare from the government", despite me helping her with a lot of her stuff like bussiness licenses, filing taxes, translation (they are first-gen immigrants), etc. Like wtf is this concept of leaving someone with nothing when they have been so helpful throughout your life, just because "you have depression and you are no longer useful to society". Then put obstacles in me getting antidepresdants because "you can't be relying on meds for the rest of your life, just go outside" bitch wtf? Go outside to the ICE agents swarming the streets?
(I'm Chinese-American)
I mean at lesst I'm not dead yet, so I probably don't deserve to complain too much, some people have it worse than me, I mean this person in the article literally got murdered. Tbh there were moments when I was a teen that I thought my mom was gonna stab me when I sleep. The fact I'm even alive is a miracle.
This toxic culture is why I never want to return to PRC, not to mention, the CCP problem.
But... now... the USA is also on fire becauses... I mean... you know... current events...
Life is going great! 🫠
Can't complain! (literally can't complain else you get arrested)
My goodness! This is a lot for you to have to go through any day of the week, let alone also with depression. You're doing great that you can talk about it, and I hope you have a community and/or friendship group to fill in the void she has created.
Leaving (or even threatening to leave) you out of the will is super messed up, I hope you have siblings/family that would stand up for you, even if only after the fact.
She may have her own mental issues or even past trauma that she's projecting onto her relationship with you and your depression. I dont say that to excuse or justify her, just to acknowledge that you aren't who she thinks you are, your depression isn't what she thinks it is, and your journey is within your control (relatively speaking), not hers.
Regarding the united states: we can't really control it. However, we can control our own 'back yards'. Find one thing, no matter how small, that you dont like and try to fix that in your life or your community. Something obtainable. (Eg, dont like single use plastics bc planet, dont want to pay for reusable bags bc oligarchs...then make reusable bags 🎉 - instructions Its ok to start small. 1000 people doing little things as a start is way better than a nobody doing anything because it 'WoNt MaKe A dIfFeReNcE'
In my country you can't disinherit your children.
Nazis. Those Nazis that want to hurt you, have NO value whatsoever.
Doesn't anyone find the recent uptick in articles about Islamic fundamentalist crimes odd? There are billions of people in the world and these sorts of things happen frequently, yet they rarely receive non-local news coverage. It seems to me like the media is capitalizing on rising Islamophobia (due to the escalating conflicts in the Middle East) by releasing sensational articles about Islamic extremism, which has the effect of drumming up more Islamophobic hate. When crimes like this are committed in the US by Christians the media tends to blame mental illness.
I mean a white christian german man killed an algerian med student in Germany 3 days ago and we don’t see much news about it.
Murder of Algerian woman in Germany prompts protests, calls for justice
Yeah, I have no idea why CBS is reporting on this Pakistan stuff. I don't need to hear about murders in random countries.
PS: 1000 people are murdered every day all over the world. Roughly 30% of those are intrafamilial.
What is this Meta media literacy? Real talk though, I bet you could find the Christian equivalent if you looked hard enough.
Recent news of Cristian parents letting a daughter die of disease
Probably prepping for a global genocide
They call it "honour killings" but it sure is a disgrace...
Im glad i live somewhere civilized and that could n-
...shit.
Honour is just their excuse, of course - it's really just about controlling women. These weak fuckers feel their control slipping and their go-to is murder.
Anyone who can do that to their daughter on a whim, I simpy can't see as human.
She probably thought it was toss up to be murdered immediately and quickly or suffer a slow death by daily anti-women injustices. She was dead anyway for simply having a brain as well as a vagina.
I'd say it was because she had both a brain and vagina at the same time. Patriarchy supporters go insane when they're forced to realize women can use their brains.
A family with a child murderer as its head is obviously more honourable than the alternative. Morons.
When I think of somebody as a parent I tend to subconsciously assign them the traits of a loving, caring and well-meaning adult even if their actions are less than perfect. But in reality, any psychopath with functional sex organs can be a parent.
Yeah, this is proven by the ultra Christian types who lets their kids die “because it’s what god wants”, or the abusive parents, or the ones who are absent 99% of the time, or the ones who leave their kids in the car to do dumb shit, and on and on.
Can we all agree that every religion is cancer
I think the issue is the very foundation of religion leads to an "us vs them" mentality.
Most of them certainly can be but Buddhism seems to be pretty practical and reasonable.
I think it's just less talked about because it seems to be going on so far from most English speaking places.
I'm not super familiar on any details, but of course there is a wiki for Buddism and Violence and there is plenty of current day stuff going on.
People are always going to eventually act their worst when enough refuse to back down on their personal beliefs, no matter their religion, or lack thereof for that matter. It's sad seeing all the discrimination in the comments.
Except when it comes to dealing with Rohingyas in Myanmar
Now tell me again about how peaceful religions are.
What a religion. God they’re poisonous.
All religions are poisonous.
Yes, all other religions are very peaceful and have never caused deaths
Maybe we should ban religions.
Yes hence my comment on religions being poisonous comment. It was barely 2 sentences, please keep up.
What a fucknut
Must have been one of those fanatic atheists again, right? They are evil and probably worship Satan. /s
Even he is less annoying than some stupid internet atheist
The atheist urss wad responsible of killing million
Imb4 a bunch of pigs starts whining about religions and suddenly care a lot about women rights when it comes to shitting on brown people.
Anything but to confront your own misoginy innit?
Sure, this event on the other side of the world is tragic or whatever, but isn't the real story here that my political opponents are bad people?
Given that those political opponents once uttered shit like "palestinians deserved it because they threat women badly", yes, yes they are.
But hey i'm sure you will remembet that girl when the US will bomb pakistan
Can also be repeated with LGBTQ. People will pontificate about these cultures oppressing them even as rights are eroding here in the U.S.
Insanity. Pure, unmitigated insanity.
I'm not sure he had any sanity in the first place to go insane, these kinds of 'creatures' only look human, if he can murder his daughter then he can murder anyone, hes a danger to everyone around him, should be locked up for life 😠
Dehumanizing people is the first step in treating them like animals, and then extermination them - genocide. Don't go down that path. It always ends the same way.
I get it. TikTok is trash.
Yeah, right. Like I'm going to believe anything the pigs say. ACAB.
Lots of bootlickers on here.