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Sure, I'll line up our talking points with a keyboard and elaborate.

People use ai as a blanket term and don’t understand the difference between an LLM and GAN or any of the dozens of other kinds of models.

When I say "These models aren't actually intelligent, talk about specific technologies and models without lumping them all together under AI." I am met with scoffing saying that everyone knows AI is just the name of the field so I should stop being pedantic. Now you're painting the opposite picture that a person like me lumps them together because of ignorance, and that's frustrating. Maybe some of those assholes you encountered are exhausted because the artificial cheers for this technology are inescapable and that's coloring their interactions with you. I don't feel like it's a fair point to call people ignorant for having to wade through manipulative marketing language to have a discussion. Hopefully you can sympathize with that a little.

The anger of people decrying the death of artistic beauty on subs that prominently feature ms paint stick figure drawings and shitty distorted images makes no sense to me. This isn’t costing anyone’s job.[....]The people that decry the death of art have never bought anything in a gallery, they were fine with artists getting paid fuck all before ai. They weren’t contributing to artists’ living in any meaningful way.

I've paid artists for art related to tabletop RPG campaigns in the past (some but not all). Now everyone shows up to games with genai character portraits and I believe my artist is going to have to quit or at least scale back because of lack of demand. I would ask that we keep in mind how gig work, commission, and subscription models form the basis of most modern artist's income. Anecdotes aren't data, but data doesn't give you an email thanking you for your support while giving up on its dreams. The taste in my mouth just didn't go away when genai invaded shitposting too. Does that make some sense?

They’re not rational. There are many valid criticisms of the tech, but you can’t even talk to these people about addressing them. Because a lot of the criticisms can and should be addressed. They won’t hear it.

I don't think the tech is being used well by the largest actors wielding it. I don't think genai can be secured or patched in the traditional sense because its not deterministic, so prompt diddling will always be a cat and mouse game. I don't think that hallucinations will ever be meaningfully solved. I'd love to learn that the overall adversarial success rate has lowered from 95% since the study I read last year! It's not that I won't hear solutions, I just have very little confidence in them given how this saga has developed over time.

Please spare a little charity for how rattling this shit is to regular people. I believe you that you've talked to some absolute dipshits, and I hope you get fewer in the future. I also hope that maybe you can reinterpret some of that vitriol in light of how these systems might have resulted in them being laid off or otherwise maligned. Maybe it's not that irrational even if they can't articulate their feelings well. Personally, I'm stifling irritation at an executive who asked me to replace a technical team with an agentic framework (behind their back) despite the technology being wildly inadequate. I hope none of that overflows onto you.

I've commissioned paid art for rpg campaigns, and I can't draw a distinction between AI and LLMs because I get yelled at by people saying, "Its just the name of the field! Nobody thinks the Sims games are actually intelligent!"

So am I allowed to draw that line now? And do you see that me using a comfyui on my local machine does actually mean an artist won't get paid? This position isn't 100% strawman.

My main issue is that I think maybe they can't be patched because they're not deterministic systems, and I have personally been asked by an executive whether a team could reasonably be replaced by LLM agents behind their backs as soon as the tech was available. How was I supposed to form your opinion given those experiences and why do you think that I'm rage addled rather than just tired?

Steeve is a trainee who is welcome to continue operating a franchise at the mission's conlusion as long as he signs the waivers.

But can't we just have a LITTLE Bladerunner style dystopia, as a treat?

Treehouse of horror 28: "The worst thing Homer's ever done"

Edit: Make sure you check season 29 for this since they lag by one

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/act-changes.html

"Key findings include the annual ingestion of 39,000–52,000 microplastic particles by individuals, with bottled water consumers ingesting up to 90,000 more particles than tap water consumers."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304389425018643?via=ihub

Well that's gross. Copy the text export of the registry, build a man file and place it appropriately, watch the system inhale fully with no logging and use your man file as registry hive next login, all without privilege.

Maybe a login script to check for specific important registry values and have it create a custom windows event log? This sucks for detection I feel like jank might be the only option.

That sounds terrible! What if we blamed random bits of middle management instead and got rich for no risk?

From the IEEE article

If the worst happens and the dome is punctured, 2,000 tonnes of CO2 will enter the atmosphere. That’s equivalent to the emissions of about 15 round-trip flights between New York and London on a Boeing 777. “It’s negligible compared to the emissions of a coal plant,” Spadacini says. People will also need to stay back 70 meters or more until the air clears, he says.

Elden ring cosplayers, ugh.

Ok so war on christmas is good now?

Sure, if you only listen to small artists and you drop them when they get too popular I guess you can preempt this whole problem, but I don't think practically you're going to see all the fans drop an artists as they start blowing up.

I think what actually happens is that someone sells out and gets too much money and keeps coasting until a backlash drives their fans away from them actively (canceling). It would be nice if your self governing system worked but I just don't have confidence it will ever overpower the marketing snowball effect.

Again I don't think people are happy with how things are; it just seems to be how shit shakes out in an attention economy.

I feel like there's a good concept here but don't go crazy and fight a real boxer if you're an influencer, or something wildly impossible

You're right that we shouldn't expect them to align the majority if the time, but it's not a reaction to the way things SHOULD be. If the person who disagrees with you gets a bunch of money they can wield it against your interests, and they will. It's a shitty matter of pragmatism that people have been forced to widen their view.

I doubt most people enjoy the situation society has landed us all in, we just wanted cool music and instead we get cool music with celebrity endorsed PACs hiding just out of view.

I'd walk into the other room first and drop a mirror in the hallway on my way back so I could see lmao. My employer wouldn't want me touching a hot bulb since that might be a workplace hazard they'd be liable for after training me with stupid riddles.

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You're not going to believe this, but the easter bunny actually has nothing to do with jesus either.

I hope you get some being time for yourself then!