lazy ad block rule

Please everyone if you’re not using something like Ublock Origin (best in the game imo) you’re doing the internet wrong.

Some say they play ads to support content creators but they make almost nothing from them because Google is so greedy. Best way to support them is direct, $5 on buy me a coffee or a patreon subscription.

I agree with you, don't shout at me please 😭 I just can't use ublock on my TV and I'm too lazy to plug my laptop in.
- If you have a smart tv or nvidia shield that can sideload apps, I recommend SmartTube
  
  https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTubeNext
- If it's an android tv, install smarttubenext and never look back.
Whenever possible, just pay them directly through PayPal or a similar service. Out of the money you pay to someone on Patreon, the creator usually ends up with less than 50% due to VAT, payment processor fees, Patreon fees, and income tax. By skipping Patreon, the creator doesn't lose out to VAT and Patreon fees.
- More creators need to start using Liberapay. It's a non-profit organization that funds itself via donations, so the only fees it charges are the ones being passed through from the underlying payment processor. It also avoids VAT by prohibiting creators from offering anything in exchange for payment.
I just pay $11 for YouTube premium. I did it entirely for YouTube Music (Google Music) but the ad free YouTube was just a nice bonus.
Also, for mobile there's revanced.
- And uYou+ for iOS.
Also, firefox on android (and I suspect iOS) allows you to install extensions including ad blockers.

Faster, saves battery, prevents sites from breaking on mobile.
- Not on iOS, because Apple forces all browsers on iOS to just be safari with a different look
Or New Pipe on phone. It's quite a while since I saw any ad on YT.
- Honestly I forget youtube has ads sometimes
even giving just 1 dollar is equal to about 50-500 views

Saw your edit, just a reminder for people to be careful with cheap Android TV boxes off Amazon/AliExpress etc. Lots of them are malware-ladden: https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/18/popular-android-tv-boxes-sold-on-amazon-are-laced-with-malware/

I got a very cheap 4k Spectre tv from Walmart. I specifically wanted a “dumb” tv because I have an Xbox and I don’t need overly complicated, slow, janky interface. It has this funny issue when I put my router behind it where the volume goes up and down by itself. I moved the router and the issue is gone.

I have been surprised by it. It was so cheap I thought it couldn’t possibly be decent, but I barely watch tv so it was whatever.

4k video is absolutely beautiful on there. I half expected or to be lying on the box.

I don’t see the point in smart tvs (at least for me).
- I don’t see the point in smart tvs (at least for me).
  
  Right?! Paying more for a smart TV when you can just get a PS4 or something for cheap and use it for any app you could possibly want on your smart TV is just so much cheaper.
  
  My girlfriend and I have been living together for 3+ years and her father keeps recommending that we set up our TV to watch Netflix on it directly for convenience. Dude, our PS5 is basically running all day anyway. Why would I want to go through the hassle of connecting my TV to our WiFi and then mess around with a shitty remote to search for stuff I want to watch on YouTube or Netflix? Not worth it for me at all. Not everything needs to be a smart device.
I recommend the Onn one
I got the Easytone T95super after reading an Expert Reviews review, is that any relation to the Allwinner T95? Have I made a grave error? 😂
- Unfortunately there's so many OEM variants of these things that it borderlines on impossible to tell for certain which ones are and which ones aren't, short of taking the firmware apart. Given the proximity in the naming convention, I suspect it might be.
  
  Much as I dislike Google, the Chromecast with Google TV (4K) variant is probably the closest in price and is reputable.

Black Mirror had an episode about this!

I was just thinking, wasn’t there something a out having to watch ads, and if you looked away the ad would stop until your eyes returned to the screen….
- Yep, you either pay to skip the ad or have to watch it.

DRINK VERIFICATION CAN

Don’t buy youtube premium

Why? I have it for YouTube Music and it works great plus no ads on YouTube.
- Just use an adblock and you don’t give money to google

My petty revolt is to rapidly tap the corner where the skip button usually is. I KNOW they’re seeing that on their analytics. Assholes.

If you keep on closing the YouTube app, and clicking on the URL, eventually after 2 or 3 tries the YouTube app won't have an ad it will go straight to the video. Saves a lot of time especially if there's 2 ads.
ublock and newpipe. fsck /com/youtube

Adblock detection was a mistake.

Edit: ok your comments just made me buy a cheap android TV box

That's a terrible idea; those things all run hacked firmware from China with preinstalled malware. (There's a fairly recent Linus Tech Tips video about it if you want more info.)

Instead, you need to be buying hardware from a reputable brand and then (ideally) installing a Free Software OS on it yourself, e.g. a Raspberry Pi running LibreELEC.

Oh shut the guy who tries to sell expensive shit to his audience said so.

yeah, when youtubers started complaining that adblock is "theft", this was a logical continuation. like, the purpose of an ad is to inform me about something i probably wish not to be informed about, and for that you get paid. but what if i don't watch the ad? the system will still think i watched it, you will still get paid, but the advertiser will not have received the product they paid for. is not looking at an ad "theft" too? are we going to have devices measure attention?

this isn't a new concept, by the way. spotify had an experiment a while back about pausing ads if you mute them (might actually just be how it works now, idk, i decided not to use spotify back when they did this, and when they banned adblock users). there's also the "verification can" story, which is yes, satire, but it shows that the technology exists. telly's "free" tv (that has a second screen for ads, and afaik can't be turned off, just turned into ad-only mode) also has presence detection in the room, and could trivially implement attention detection as well. qualcomm also proposed always-on cameras for phones a few years back, specifically for eye tracking, "for security", which certainly won't be used for punishing banner blindness. not on google's os! they definitely don't run the largest online ad network after all.

and if you're against this, but believe adblock is a problem because people aren't paid for ads if they can't display the ads, you don't really care about theft. specifically, you don't really care if the product advertisers pay for is stolen from them, as long as they're forced to pay for a worthless return. and sure, fuck the advertising industry, i'm right there with you -- but that's precisely why i do use adblock. there is no alignment here that's consistent with insisting on propping up that industry but harming its consumer.

but at the end of the day, what is the product advertisers pay for? is it that the ads is technically delivered to you, even if you cast it aside? if they deliver paper-based junk mail, am i immoral to have a robot throw it out, rather than do it manually? or is the product that i read their junk mail? is there a moral imperative to engage in a fair discussion with them, to honestly consider their point? because, at the end of the day, they pay for all this, so where is the line?

my line, in particular, is that they can try on an individual scale, but i'm keeping the robot around to yeet their junk mail, and on a societal scale i would like to see the advertising industry disbanded for the harm it causes in market manipulation, surveillance, and adverse psychological effects. but i also don't consider adblock "theft" so it's pretty clear we're not talking about my set of principles. i really would like to see what a person who considers adblock theft actually thinks about all these topics, beyond a simplistic view about youtube creators. if you expand your ideology to other situations, where does it take you?

That's why advertisers shouldn't care about ad blockers - they prevent them from wasting money showing an ad to someone who isn't interested.
- yeah, in my experience it tends to be websites that care about ad blockers. youtube is the latest mainstream example but i've ran into some adblock detectors on random backwater sites (although nowadays the firefox + ublock origin combo seems to cut through them with ease). i don't think advertisers really give a crap, for the exact reason you mentioned, but websites do insist on wasting the advertisers' money on people who block ads, because that means they get paid. the real theft is happening between those two parties.
  
  i'm not trying to absolve the advertisers of blame either though. i think the most mad i've ever gotten at them was when i heard how they oppose pay-to-not-get-ads schemes like youtube premium, because it means the most "valuable" users won't see their ads. their endgame is cable, where you pay out your ass for a service and still get ads shoved into your face (where they take up 25% of the time). on top of that, advertisers are a massive force behind the corporate morality sanitization of the internet in the name of "advertiser-friendliness", sometimes in blatantly manipulative ways. for example, don't you dare have a sex-positive attitude because 1) they want to advertise lots of PG-13 shit and don't want it showing up next to higher rated content, and 2) when they advertise more mature stuff they don't want the tits in your content to detract from the tits in their ads.
  
  but yeah, to get back on topic, the anti-adblock technologies are pushed by people who get paid for ads, not by people who pay for ads.
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