Experts: No Way to Truly Know if Redditor You're Arguing With Is Bot or Child

Very fitting headline in a day and age where I'm constantly seeing people advocating for giving trump the Whitehouse and finishing the country off because anything less would be SuPpOrTiNg GeNoCiDe. As if the move to help Palestinians would be to elect Trump. These people are very stupid children, bots, or Russian paid actors. Impossible to know which.

Russian paid actors.
I got into that exact argument about Biden. Eventually I called the person a Putin puppet and got my post deleted by a Lemmy.world mod.
- So, you got into an argument, turned to insults, and moderation kicked in. Sounds like everything is working OK.
- Annnnd I was banned from politics on lemmy.world. this is actually kind of messed up. I don't think I said anything particularly offensive even. It seems like it was more about my message.
- The "automod" just removed 5 of my comments for complete bullshit reasons, but it honestly does seem like they did it in response to the exact same issue -- I claimed someone is a russian actor. I'm now wondering who runs lemmy.world, and what exact agenda they have.
  Despite it claiming "automod" there were human-written reasons, one of which was "Provide evidence of shilling or this is personal insult."
- Wow. It's so concerning.
Biden is assisting a genocide though. Will I vote for him in 2024? Most likely. I still fucking hate him though.
- I mean, that's fine. I only have a problem with people who will watch the world burn under the guise of principles
Why am I unsurprised that its lemmy.world libs bringing the 'everyone I don't like is a russian bot' line to the fediverse.
vote biden because trump bad
what about their resumes? what have either candidates done that has benefited your life enough directly that demands your vote?
please name one thing biden has done that your life now is better for
was it the cannabis reforms he promised and flip flopped on with prosecutor harris? was it the police reforms he promised? was it defending our human rights? was it the immigration policies he talked up that now mirror republican strategies? or is that stagnant paycheck after biden promised a higher minimum wage of $15 which is still too low due to the inflation?
forgot he can not do anything because republicans and republicans never can do anything either because democrats
through policies and laws crafted and put in place by politicians like biden, trump, obama, and the list goes on my right to vote was taken so not like have a say in this election anyways
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true
- Not that those links would be the metric to go by when voting, but they do not support your position as Biden's stats are much better there.
  I will not waste any more time on you so don't bother replying
What about unpaid russian actors?
lemmy despite trying not to be like reddit, it's still moderated by people that get off on the power trip exactly the same

Everyone's being funny about it, but the Dead Internet Theory is looking more and more rational, especially on Reddit. I really don't have any rational reason to expect that even the dancing TikTok people are real, never mind Reddit comments. I'm fairly certain that I am a living thing, but I have to question everyone else, with all due respect.

Man, Reddit's weird now. I think it's just responding to the cookies that it sets as I use it, but I don't log in and FF dumps cookies every time I close the browser for the night, so when I browse into r/All there's a new "hot" subreddit every time, and it's always kind of random. The usual suspects, like JusticeServed and all that fashy shit, those are kind of conspicuously absent, too.

I think Reddit's on their way out, not because of Lemmy, sorry, but because all the normies getting forced online in 2020 was the last hurrah, and the site is on the way down, finally, I can feel the traffic dropping. Everyone's either getting sucked into the jet engine of TikTok and Instagram or they're just using group chats and avoiding social media altogether.

The fascinating thing about modern Reddit is at long last the Americans all seem to have left, and suddenly the site feels like it belongs to the EU, and even South America a bit. So either it's about to rise with a new flame in this next decade or you should probably buy one share of the IPO as a keepsake and no more. I wonder how long it will take to delist.

My dude, I've spent the last couple years really upgrading my finance chops and now I just keep looking around at the variety of internet based things that seem to be winding down like a shitty old clock while going, hah! interest rates too high now! The current internet was only possible in the free money era.

Are you in the EU yourself? Americans have not left reddit. Simply, Reddit has been agressively trying to expand into the EU and LATAM, by constantly pushing the local equivalent of English subreddits like me_irl. To the point where if you are in the EU and logged out you will maybe 10% English content and 90% content in your language.
I really don’t have any rational reason to expect that even the dancing TikTok people are real
Judging by where the quality of fully AI video on the AI image subs is at, we're probably still a few months out from that being easily possible.
Reddit is for cops. Its destruction was on purpose.
El/gin ai,rforce base is reddit's most addicted city in a scrubbed blog post. Here's a reddit post bragging about it to fellow a,irforce.
What do they do at El/gin? Don't click anything. They do many things but mostly oh, nothing. Nothing to see here.
They're just kidding, right? Right?
They wouldn't do anything malicious, would they?.
That can't be legal can it? Oh, thanks Obama.
It's a dead platform for cops, square haircuts, corporate fellatio, thugs of capital, jackboot goons, and well trained Jan 6 architects
Man I posted one fully loaded question on askreddit and I'm shadow banned not even a warning fuck reddit
Man I posted one fully loaded on askreddit and I'm shadow banned not even a warning fuck reddit
3-5 years ago, posting this would get people copy pasting the dictionary definition of solipsism at you and downvotes to hell. But now....it seems we are determined to crowdsource proof of it being the world we live in 🙃
Edit: the gutter subs that post the incendiary content is missing for you? That's interesting

I mean… welcome to the internet. It’s not just Reddit, but most social media, and some “news” sites.

The problems on Facebook aren't children. They're men aged 39-55 wearing sunglasses.

I usually assume they are a piss drinker.

I only drink it when I feel scared about something. Ask your grandma she will tell you it's true
https://youtu.be/6vbCKava_JE?si=V1FZuUZ4U0Vqpn9R

How is this from the Onion!?!? I don’t know which is which anymore…

It’s from The Hard Drive, which is another satire site. The sidebar for this community mentions that other satire sites are okay to post.
- Thanks; I meant the "news" itself, about not longer being able to tell wether the news being satire or not., even though it’s from the Onion or Hard drive

This is not an Onion article, this is a research paper

I wonder what Alan Turing would think of this.

He'd be too busy shitposting on Tumblr as King of the Gay Pirates
- Gay Pirates have no king. Gay Pirates need no king.
Let me ask the Alan Turing chatbot...
Any AI smart enough to pass a turing test would also be smart enough to fail it on purpose.

Bots write better.

Effectively you are dismissing users based on your own feelings and not much else
Almost always the other person zeroes in on and rises to the bait.
That's a bad method especially on Lemmy which prides itself on friendliness.
If I know I'm right, and coming down hard on someone in an argument, I actively avoid acknowledging insults because I see it as a tactic to stall from losing an argument.
People will start ramping up insults before they lose in order to bait you into arguing about the insults instead of the facts that they are wrong about.
- prides itself on friendliness.
  🤣🤣🤣
- I mean, it can pride itself on friendliness, but it's not really a friendly place. People are toxic and dismissive, often ignoring any nuance in a discussion.
- That's a bad method especially on Lemmy which prides itself on friendliness.
  I've seen a minor increase in people willing to reply and bring actual sauce to discussion. I've still never seen anyone willing to change their mind despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. Even when you have a username like my which goads people into ad hominems using fake historical earworms lol.
Your strategy, while innovative, is fundamentally flawed. It's disingenuous and presumptuous, alienating those who maintain composure and objectivity rather than reacting emotionally to your minor provocations.
I propose an easier solution: interact with people who you find interesting. Worst case, you have a wonderful conversation with a bot and find your prejudice wasn't even warranted.
You just run away when someone questions your bad faith argument like a true adult.
This is embarrassing.
Huh, you're nicer about it than I am. I usually just barbecue their souls and then get banned. 🤷
You think that anyone behaving like an adult after you insult them is a shill? Kee-rist, no wonder the internet is in such bad shape.
i always have my 30 years of Internet shit talking under my belt! Insults don’t hit as hard when they’re all re-runs :)
Only 30? If you weren't online before '93 then you're a n00b.

Akshually, Distinguishing between an AI-generated comment and a child's input can be challenging due to evolving language models. Both may exhibit simplicity, occasional errors, or innocence in expression. As technology progresses, this line blurs, prompting reflection on the nature of communication and the expanding capabilities of AI.