TIL Thanksgiving was moved earlier so Christmas shopping could start sooner.
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Christmas creep was happening 100 years ago, thanks capitalism.
FDR was unarguably the most socialist president the US has ever had
FDR was the president who did the most to increase social welfare, but he was still a capitalist.
This is the US you're talking about, they consider it nice if their elected officials apply lube before raping them.
What about Teddy Roosenvelt?
I am annoyed by Christmas before Thanksgiving, but the change doesn't seem that egregious, just avoiding the case where it could be a week later than usual:
in 1863, during the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln established the last Thursday of November as the official date for Thanksgiving to be celebrated each year. Following this tradition, every president thereafter declared a general day of Thanksgiving to be observed on the last Thursday in November. However, in 1939, during the Great Depression, November had five Thursdays, and the last one fell on November 30, which left little time for the Christmas shopping season. To address this concern, in August 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt decided to break from tradition and issued an executive order declaring that Thanksgiving would be celebrated on November 23 instead of November 30.
Also it didn't work:
A 1941 Commerce Department survey found no significant expansion of retail sales due to the change.
Why is it so late in the US anyways? Other countries have this right after the harvest season.
At that time, it was generally frowned upon for retailers to display Christmas decorations or hold Christmas sales prior to Thanksgiving—a trend later referred to as "Christmas creep."
At least we don't have that problem anymore! /s
July fucking 5th. I saw Christmas trees for sale on July the fucking 5th.
I absolutely refuse to engage with Christmas until December 12th now. I told my wife spooky season extends to Christmas day. I have neighbors with skeletons still out, so I'm sure I'm not alone.
I'm quitting Christmas this year. No gifts, no attending the annoying semi-mandatory work Christmas party, none of this corporate crap which has encroached on a holiday that was once about family to me.
It's not even December yet and it's already been incredibly freeing not having to worry about any of it this year.
I'll visit family, rewatch Gremlins, maybe put up some decorations, but that'll be it. Should have opted out years ago.
That was always an option. Do people celebrate this differently than that?
Non-gifting pacts with your siblings, also very recommended.
I quit being annoyed by Christmas cookies starting being sold in September. Also very freeing.
It's all about little life hacks to ignore Christmas.
I wanted to burn a target down when I went there at noon on Halloween and the Halloween section was already stripped bare to make room for xmas shit. I made my purchase last minute elsewhere so there would be more candy on Halloween to give out. There's no bigger shame than in having to turn the porch lights off early because half the candy got eaten before Halloween.
Thanksgiving has always been in October
Canadian thanksgiving is best thanksgiving
Damn, what a concept. If people buy extra in this time period, it is 100% crap that they don't need. Otherwise, they would be buying it, no matter when it gets stocked. So, the way to combat an economic crisis is to produce more garbage. Incredible.
According to the article it didn't even work - there wasn't a noticeable increase in spending.
Ah, thanks, I hadn't read that far. It says this:
A 1941 Commerce Department survey found no significant expansion of retail sales due to the change.
With this as source: https://www.nytimes.com/1941/05/21/archives/thanksgiving-goes-back-to-old-date-in-42-president-says-change-did.html
All holidays are shaped by consumerism. Mother's day, valentines day, st Patrick's day, it's all about selling more shit.
We kept Thanksgiving in early October in Canada and they still start advertising for Christmas as soon as Halloween is done.
Wait. Shopping stops?
They start stocking the shelves with Christmas crap a week before Halloween now
You have to buy and prepare your Halloween gear by the first week of October and buy all your candy two weeks before Halloween because there will be little to no Halloween stuff by Halloween ... and anything you can buy the week before Halloween will either be no good or way overpriced and in that week before Halloween, you have to search for the Halloween stuff among all the Christmas stuff they started displaying.
They start early September in Canada… so fed up….
There were decorations for sale at Costco in California in late August. Decorative gourd season decorations hadn't even shown up yet.
I want to buy Halloween decorations during the week before Halloween, and they were already closing up
aight no money for you I guess