Maybe liberals just care more about their community?
Maybe liberals just care more about their community?
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Conservatives think destroying the community is a flex.
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conservatives think anything is a flex as long as they can CO-OPT it into thier realm, they dont have a single belief they hold on to, and quite fickle, today its bad bunny, tommorow, its something else.
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They are just reactionary and don't have solid, thinking principles to guide them.
This could be a massive advantage, we could literally own them and push them into every good position we want if we all unified and understood that they have the minds of toddlers and just need good narratives and emotional engagement.
Instead, what most on the left do over and over is clash with ideology, philosophy and trying to argue about their "inconsistency." This has never worked except with people already on the fence, which is a shame that we have essentially given up on a 3rd of our population because the required level emotional intelligence is something you get from socializing and being social.
And like, half the people on the left are more vindictive than want better outcomes and want to see the right "pay" more than they want to see them change.
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you mean destroying "tHe deEp StAtE" or "THe EsTabLishMenT"
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I guess only when they do it. BLM community destruction is still something brought up often.
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MAGA is white trash. …And pick me trash. To be fair. I wish we could just split the country at this point. Irreconcilable differences.
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I wish we could just split the country at this point.
Literally what the controlling donor-class want more than anything.
The more we're divided, the less chance we have of making unified actions against corporate power and capital.
Do you think they will stop at left-versus-right? Why do you think there's so much infighting within left and right groups? Agitators are already in our midst driving up contention with rage-bait politics and they amplify the worst positions on both sides of every issue. They want every single American to be alone, inside their home, browsing a shopping feed.
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They think they are better than other people. They don't see others as worthy of their consideration. “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash, when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?” - advisor to the President Stephen Miller
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"Can't someone else do it?" - Homer Simpson
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Ah, you're describing Moral licensing, and that's entirely plausible.
In this case it's "Littering is bad, but there's no trash cans here and I'm a generally good person so, just this once."
Except I suspect that "once" is really "every so often."
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I always thought it was "it's just one can/bag/bottle" when its clean, "it's full of trash, one more won't make a difference"
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Realistically it was similar in the BLM protests of 2020.
While Trump & Fox were telling demented grandmas that black people were burning entire cities to the ground, the reality was very tame.
Only real disruptions came from police provoking and illegally attacking protestors.
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I literally watched a cop throw a blast ball in 2020 and then subsequently use their own actions to declare a riot
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I dont agree with leaving the trash there, but I understand it. It would have been confusing with all the trash already gathering there.
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In my town you couldn’t even tell there had been a protest there minutes after.
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My major city is still at its typical levels of squalor.
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You can tell who lives there.
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While in general the comparison is true, in the specific case of the Kirk circlejerk, people specifically were told to leave their shit outside the venue and TP paid for the cleanup.
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Even if being told, who drops their trash on the streets?
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Allegedly true of country music fans too. That Venn diagram isn’t quite a circle, but it’s close.
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Death Metal fans are percieved as incredibly violent, but actually are usually super nice.......unless you give them a reason to get super violent. Then they're super violent.
But after they get done lynching you, they'll stop for coffee and tea and discuss politics and comunity news.
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The march didn't go to central ave but yes there were clean up crews
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Yeah fake pics.
Fuck Trump though.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
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feels relevant : https://xcancel.com/funder/status/893678995404988417
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I'm in the middle of watching the Some More News episode about Stephen Miller, and it's the first thing I thought of seeing the post
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That was quite an episode. Something is very wrong with that man.
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How do you know that all on no kings protestors are liberals?
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I would like to think it was only ~50%
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Animals. That trash is how their brains must be.
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Whilst I believe the message on the whole, this is just clear... cherry picking, no?
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No.
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Tens of thousands of people and not a single scrap of litter accidentally strewn from the various people with their musical fanfare. I'm not even sure Japan is that good.
Why don't we just focus on the hard policies which are destroying people's livelihoods with provable statistics, instead of scrounging for wishful narratives focused around littering of all things
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While it is a just comparison of 2 single data points, that doesnt necessarily mean they aren't representative of the whole picture. (Not saying they are representative, either)
Generally, cherry picking for something like this would be combing through data sets and finding outliers to point to that aren't representative of the data as a whole.
It appears they just took random photos of each sides most recent event. Now, maybe they did cherry pick photos and the Republicans, say, only trashed that one area, or the no kings' photo is, say, the one area they didnt trash/ a photo of after the city cleaned up after them. (personally, I would have preferred a photo with protesters in it, not an after the fact shot)
But without evidence to the contrary, IMO, this can't be called cherry picking.
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Anyone caught throwing trash on the ground should have their voting rights suspended till after the nearest election. If somebody is so lazy and has so little regard for their local community - does anyone seriously believe they care about the whole country?
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While i agree in spirit, I feel like that would quickly devolve into cops detaining and beating minorities, just to force them to drop whatever's in their hand, so they can charge them with littering and disenfranchise them.
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Sounds a little too far fetched to me. Also like a USA problem. Police in Europe, while definitely not perfect, is a lot more friendly and almost never exhibits the same behaviors as American police.
I don't mean to imply anything or to accuse anyone, but to me this sounds exactly like the kind of argument someone who throws trash around would make.
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Disagree, suspending voting rights in general leads to feedback. Like how felons can't vote, so we get more laws that turn their community into felons.
Littering should be punished with community service but your right to vote is not a privilege.
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As I mentioned in another comment - this seems like an issue specific to the USA. This sort of trend is extremely rare in Europe. Plus, politicians generally encourage everyone to vote here, so it's not like this benefits them, unless they can effectively target a certain demographic - which, again, never happens.
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Sometimes I fire up the ole' Charlie Kirk assassination video just to see it happen again.
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That's probably not mentally healthy buddy. How about we shift over to destroying all his life's work instead.
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he was loved so much that everyone has practically forgotten about him.
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I wish. My stepmom on Facebook made a post on him yesterday. They really want to hang onto this one, because it's easy to frame it in their persecution complex
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speaks volumes
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Trump is ultra liberal which is why he's bailing out is ultra liberal buddy Milei. Stop calling leftists liberal
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Part of gaining political maturity is understanding how different sets of people use different terminology and just adapting and using their language to make points. You will never change populations by yourself by butting heads, instead you will push people away.
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Maybe, but political literacy means recognizing that Trump and American liberals share most of their ideals, e.g. freedom as economic 'freedom', or sanctity of private property. In practice, both rather fight the poor than poverty and regarding racist police their solutions only differ in the amount of training they see fit for cops.
But maybe political maturity is understanding that most people (not just in the US) are politically illiterate.
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Go outside
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Maybe? Absolutely liberals care more about their communities. Part of conservatism is that you don’t give a single shit about anyone but yourself. Maybe your kids. But that’s only if they’re straight and cis.
The right-wingers also aren't from the place they have these rallies at usually. They drive all over the country and get bussed around for these events to make the movement seem more popular. But when there are large progressive/left protests or events, they are mostly actually from that area so they care more about not making a mess.
Both things make sense together - people care more about not making a mess were they live than were they don't and left-wingers also think about others rather than just themselves - "do to others what you would like them to do to you" - which in this case means don't leave your trash behind to dirty up the place were others live, whilst rightwingers are all about what's best for themselves and in a place were they don't live simply dropping their trash on the ground and leaving it to dirty up somebody else's streets is less hassle for them personally than carrying their trash to the nearest trash bin.
country folk vs city folk too