So how is it going South Korea?

dies after fall

Well, if that ain't a whitewashed headline.

I know this is programmer_humour, but can we express some condolence for the manager who ~~jumped~~fell from the building?

Yeah, I agree I was chuckling till I saw the last article and audibly said oooooh. A real sobering moment.
Oh, that's more sad, I thought they had gotten the same treatment russians do.
- This was propably some honor thing. Or avoidence of responsibilty. Or maybe taking one for the team as scape goat. I don't know. Nevertheless, it is sad.
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Vladimir Putin is to blame for every death in Russia. In South Korea, thoughts and prayers for unavoidable window sill slipperiness.
Oh, my... I had just skimmed so I had not noticed that until you pointed it out...
Bit of an overreaction. It may be a disaster recovery but its not that bad.
- They apparently lost eight years of data, 858TB, with no backups at all because it's "too much". That's a disaster for sure, but I'm not so optimistic about there being a lot of recovery...

So I have lived in South Korea for 6 years now. The fact that this fire has had such a major impact is quite typical of Korean bureaucracy and tech administration. Very few backups, infrastructure held together with scotch tape and bubblegum, overworked devs and maintainers. It's a bit sad, especially for a country that exports so many tech products.

Their explanation for having no backups was that 858 TB of data was "due to its large capacity". They stored eight years of data without backups. Even with systems where they had backups, it sounds like there's no redundancy – nobody can work because the single building where all the servers are located is currently out of order.

Sounds like the acute symptoms of chronic penny-pinching when it comes to IT infrastructure. I hope they take some good lessons from it at least. Just a shame that it's such a devastating way to learn.

Some moron deleted 75 TB of prod database the other day and sure that was catastrophic (for him, mostly) but it was backed up. We are a mid-size company, maybe a few hundred people across the country. I can't imagine the governement of freaking Korea, land of fiber years before everyone else, running so short on storage they can't do backups.
This shit is gonna go into It school books, like the OVH data center fire from 2018 (iirc)
"we can't ensure the data is safe because there's too much of it"
..sounds like an especially big reason to figure something out, huh? Not to mention, 858 TB isn't even that much for a whole ass government. For a consumer it might be 10$ per TB for a new drive, so it would be less when you're a government, which makes it just a bit under 10 000 USD for a full backup. That's it. Even if you budget in having to replace all drives once a year, 10 000 USD/yr is a bargain
- New drives are more like 20€ per TB. Factor in redundancy with something like raid 5 and boom, off-site storage costs you a government toppling 20 000€ in hard drives.

In Lithuania, healthcare e-services went down after the basement where the servers were kept got flooded in a rainstorm. They went down for a couple of weeks.

If I had a nickel for every time someone didn't backup their datacenter, I'd have two nickels.

Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened at least twice.

Last time we lost disks at work, there were full backups.
They were just in the same disks as the data. And because everything is abstracted two times into virtual disks on virtual machines, and containers and volumes, the people responsible for the backups didn't even know it.
- But won't you like...check? That the backups are own their own drive? The whole 3-2-1 rule kinda make you want to check this, no?
  Or was it like they knew where the drives of the backups were, but they didn't know those drives were being virtualized away and were in like production use?
- If everything is serverless, hardware can't fail!
Maybe they stored backups on-site

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