As of September 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 156 of the 193 member states of the United Nations (UN), or approximately 80% of all UN members.
Yet this is the great diplomatic Master stroke of our left of center governments in the West. Meanwhile the final solution continues unabated, abetted by weapons still flowing from those Western countries.
Anything short of sending their Navy and Military to land food on the beach and physically defend handing it out is bullshit at this point.
Yet this is the great diplomatic Master stroke of our left of center governments in the West.
Macron is left of center⁉️ He was central for this "stroke" and if you think that he is "left of center", your map is upside down.
Anything short of sending their Navy and Military to land food on the beach and physically defend handing it out is bullshit at this point.
if you think of Palestine's recognition by these nations as "bullshit" at this point… i wonder who i'm writing to. It of course is not enough; but it's not "bullshit" either, especially if you consider who is the emperor since January.
Is not meaningful action. Maybe November 2023 it would have been.
France knew the score from the start, I knew it so France must have known it better than I cuz they have better news service than I do.
As to my directional, all of our non-right parties have been seized by conservatives across the West the only reform vote is for the fire right which makes it inevitable they will come into power without some real opposition leadership. Macron is a failure and Leadership throwing France into the arms of the far right that in partnership with the US and Russia will help everyone put a fix in to kill representative government in all but name. I mean that goes without saying I would have thought.
It's BS becsuse there may be no palestinians left in few years
FINLAND NOOOOO WTF
I have seen that most of the opposition has come together to threaten the governing coalition with a vote of no confidence if they don't do it soon, and that only about half of the coalition opposes it, so hopefully we will see a change of course soon. Disclaimer thoigh that I am not Finnish and don't particularly follow Finnish politics, so I might be missing context
What's the deal with Czechia and Hungary?
Well Hungary with Orban running the show doesn't like muslims so that's maybe not so shocking
Shit man Muslims be getting worldwide hate. Sucks.
Disputed recognitions.
Czechoslovakia recognised Palestine, and both successors said they would carry on international legal stuff from Czechoslovakia. However, the Czech government now says that Czechoslovakia never formally recognised Palestine. I don't know how meaningful that claim is or what it's based on. Slovakia independently reaffirmed the recognition shortly after the two split
Hungary's case is just that communist Hungary recognised Palestine and Orban's government is mad about it (though apparently not mad enough to formally retract the recognition)
Until this month/year all of Europe didn't recognize it
Several did it last year, Sweden was 2014, Iceland was 2011, Slovenia and Bosnia were the 90s, and a hefty chunk of Eastern Europe did it in the 80s (and has continued doing so in the post-Soviet era). The two highlighted are because of disputed recognitions
Recognizing it changes nothing this is an empty gesture to appease people angry about the Israelis pursuing a final solution against Gaza, and promising to do the same to the West bank.
Sorry to be a downer, but the UN General Assembly resolutions and votes are non-binding. The UNGA also voted to condemn the US invasion of Iraq and Russian invasion of Ukraine, and yet the aggressors were not sanctioned or reprimanded.
Why call it the UN when one nation controls all the others.
It's like the ancient Roman Empire .... a land of equals, but one is more equal than the others.
And just like the ancient Roman empire, it is starting to collapse.
Well if the UN was controlled by one nation there hardly would have been several condemnations by a majority of countries in the General Assembly regarding Israel's actions in Palestine
Completely aside from the op's statement, in this case, condemnations don't mean shit unless there is action associated with it.
At worst it's the political unions version of "thoughts and prayers", at best it's genuine dissention that's being ignored until it's too fucking late to matter.
Im sure there are political considerations I don't see as a layperson but nations speaking up and control being in the hands of a single or small minority of nations aren't mutually exclusive states.
My stance on the issue is obvious but I'm not arguing that stance here, just that your reply is logically shaky.
I will let you talk but i will not listen to you. Yes this is still control
So could someone explain what it means for Palestine to be "recognized as a state" by some proportion or other of the UN? If the UN says something is or isn't a state, what does that mean for it?
It's not the UN saying it's a state. Palestine has been an observer at the UN for a while, I believe
If a country doesn't recognise another country, they won't do diplomacy with it, will probably recognise some other country's claim on that land (which is bad for the country that wants to be recognised, obviously), and basically won't treat it as an independent nation
If a country doesn't recognise another country, they won't do diplomacy with it
This isn't necessarily true. See, for example, how loads of countries don't officially recognise Taiwan for the sake of keeping China happy, but do maintain an unusually well-staffed "trade office" in Taipei and accept Taiwanese passports
Nope. Most UN members have diplomatic relations with Palestine. Even the ones that do not recognize it as a country do. Mostly it is some small countries, which do not, but I fully get that say Samoa does not care that much about Palestine. Wikipedia has a good list of it.
and so is ukraine, but no one is really helping them either.
besides doing this, why not cut off the aid to the country, or threaten to israel.
Hva faen, Danmark? Skjerpings!
Come on NZ, get it together! You're even on this map and all.
They’ve been talking about it for what feels like months now.
But we’ve got a conservative three headed snake running our government at the moment.
We’re not allowed nice things. Just shit like austerity to pay for retroactive tax cuts for landlords.
Well fuck...