Websites telling me what I can do with my own browser so they can have their pointless cookies
It's not even "Incognito" (what a misnomer too), this is a Gecko-based browser
"One vote per IP-address" - So they already tackled the problem that people can vote more then once.
Straight-up asshole design.
Exactly what I think. They also block VPNs and such.
That's also asshole design. Most people are behind some form of nat. It's especially egregious for customers of ISPs who use CGNAT.
I feel like for straw poll it's more valid, they probably do it to try and avoid people voting more than once.
A bit yes, but any technique like that can be used to fingerprint and deanonymize users.
Yes, but that's the only way you can trust electronic voting, by removing anonymity
Yes, but if you wanted to, you can write a script that mass votes and bypasses this (if there is no captcha)
That's when I stop giving them traffic. There's far too many alternatives to do otherwise.
Enter.
"NOPE"
clicks back
And proceed to chose next search result.
Cookies are not evil per se... but data mining companies made them like that.
I'm administrating an online store and cookies are responsible for the customer's cart, plus their user session / logged in state.
As an admin I adhere to the "golden rule", thus there are no creepy trackers on store. I don't like them and I don't want customers to face the same thing on websites that I manage.
That said, cookies are needed for user session & fraud protection. Instead of nuking cookies we shall kick the trackers out.
Yea but all that kind of functionality can work with (permanent) private mode as well. I don't use a lot of web services so I can log in when I need or make a pwa like with Lemmy here.
It kind of makes sense for strawpoll, because without some sort of cookies, they wouldn't know if the same person is voting multiple times. But they should say something like 'incognito mode makes the votes inaccurate, please visit on normal mode'
One vote per IP-Address allowed.
They already have your IP. "Incognito" mode doesn't change that.
That does have the consequence of allowing only one person to vote per public IP, which on large networks may correspond to quite a lot of users.
That probably doesn't matter much for a simple internet straw poll, but I can imagine situations where IP-based uniqueness isn't reliable enough.
What if you have multiple people voting from the same place/public IP?
When I go to a site, and they do it, I avoid it at all the costs or never come back!
It's not pointless, it's so they can track you.
what a misnomer too
It's crazy how many people think "incognito mode" prevents people from seeing what websites they are visiting.
Let Mozilla know by filing a report on Webcompat.
I'll look into that. I believe web sites shouldn't have any way to detect private mode, right?
There's an extension that allows you to hide incognito mode from websites called Hide Private Mode I'm not sure why browsers don't do this by default (maybe it's some funny compliance thing) it would greatly improve privacy.
Thx. It's weird, but I guess that's now part of Firefox now, to be hypocrites.
Also why the heck does the browser need to ping Google every time I launch a private session? I can't even fathom a reasonable answer.
Honestly people should just set there browser to clear cookies on close
Can't say I like logging into all of my accounts (most of which gave 2FA as well) 3 times a day
It would be nice if you could whitelist sites for cookies. That way you can stay logged into things like email.
You 100% can. That's exactly how I have mine set up. It clears cookies on exit but then I manage a whitelist.
Here are the Chrome instructions. Firefox is more or less the same.
You can, on firefox at least. No add ons required it's a browser feature.
Use the extension/add-on "cookie auto-delete" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autodelete/
It's magic!
And "I don't care about cookies" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-about-cookies/
This clears those annoying GPDR things.
These two add-ons will change your life.
They are available for all the browsers, not just Firefox.
Any websites that doesn't just work with a simple ad blocker or still has ads I just close and never return.
I kind of understand this one though, 99% of the time stuff like this is just bullshit. But this is an effort to stop users from voting multiple times.
When is the world going to admit that by and large, internet advertising is garbage and doesn't work? People are far more likely to buy whatever random crap sponsor is on their fav youtuber's videos than anything from "targeted advertising".
Sites like this I just close the tab and use uBlacklist to hide them from any search results.
I agree mildly infuriating "pointless cookies" really - they make their money from advertising and tracking data, so they've made a choice.
Interestingly, a choice that I'm pretty sure would fall foul of GDPR in Europe - but a choice.
You can install the Ghostery add-on on Firefox mobile to prevent cookies and trackers.
The website has the right to choose when you can use it unfortunately. If you don't like the decision, don't use it. Or you could just use a content blocker if the cookies are the issue.
It's not their business to know or dictate how to use my browser. It's like they were telling me I can only browse their site while wearing pink socks or something.
I mean, of all sites, polls make the most sense to require cookies to avoid duplicate votes.
Cookies are really inappropriate for this use..
You need to track the user for a poll. Sessions don't work since private browsing enables duplicate votes. Tracking the IP can block users from the same network/wifi. Cookies get auto-sent and browser storage is only clientside. Really not many more options aside from making an account on a site and logging in. I find it a pretty reasonable solution actually.
It could be useful to prevent accidental duplicate votes. But definitely not sufficient for malicious actors.
I'd think they serve their purpose just fine
Wouldn't the better solution be to keep a log of previous client IPs, on the server side? Sure, VPN will circumvent it, but it's much easier for me to clear a cookie 100 times then to connect to 100 different VPNs.
The EU has made logging IP addresses generally illegal.
IPs rotate too often and it would only allow 1 vote per modem.
Except that it is really easy to clear cookies
Not if you don't know what cookies even are. Stops the regular Joe just fine