Poland shoots down drones in its airspace during Russia’s Ukraine attack, calls violation act of aggression

Officials have cited the physical danger that such actions could cause and a desire to avoid an escalation in tensions between Russia and NATO.

Russia clearly does not share these concerns. This wasn’t an “act of aggression,” it was an act of war. Maybe rethink your attitude, NATO.

Hey, remember when Turkey unflinchingly smoked an Su-24 that entered their airspace, and then Russian shit flying into Turkish airspace was no longer a problem that Turkey had to deal with?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
The solution is easy. You just need to have the stones to react to the situation as the Russians themselves would. That’s the geopolitical calculus they respond to. This pussy-footing around “avoiding escalation” encourages them to engage in encroaching brinksmanship. If NATO were to collectively say “here’s the line, don’t fucking cross it”, and then frag anything that crossed the line, Russia would very quickly stop crossing the line.
- Hey, listen here, appeasement will work THIS time, I am sure of it. Maybe the EU needs to send send back some Russian dissidents and asylum seekers, that'll do it. Or buy some more oil.
  On a more serious note, NATO does not seem to understand that "fuck around,find out" doesn't work when the "find out" phase is just a strongly worded letter.
- Remember when Russia shot down a passenger jet and over 200 people died and the worst that happened to them was finger pointing? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
- Turns out Russia DOES understand violence.
- Yeah, for me the troops releasing drones from Belarus are a legitimate target now. Sadly I'm not in charge of NATO.
They just give him a free pass to invade UE. Good Job! So it's every country for itself or at what point does NATO start defending itself?
I mean after Poland, Germany? Will they do anything or still not
Once they arrived here in France we'll just start learning Russian I guess
NATO and Russia have been in a state of war for a long time now. it could have been as early as 2014, but defintley since 2022.
the difference is the war isn't directley Kinetic, but we're getting there, this is a small step up the escalatory ladder. We aren't quite at the level Turkey was though, shooting down VKS jets and Killing Pilots

There were a total of 19 airspace violations. It was no accident, it's an act of war.

I can't imagine how sternly worded our letter to Russia is going to be! Scary stuff.

Go Poland!

According to the latest that I've read, these "Gerbera" type drones ("Shahed imitators" but dangerous enough to do damage) carried an extra fuel tank that isn't found in Gerberas that fly in Ukraine.

Seems like a deliberate test of response.

I think the response of shooting them down was correct. I hope that a minimum of information about operating procedures leaked during work. I hope the shootdown was cheap (e.g. planes or helicopters using autocannon instead of missiles) because Gerberas are cheap, dirt cheap.

Some additional message needs to be figured out by NATO countries and communicated (more likely via practical action, since talk is cheap) from which a conclusion of "let's not do it again" would be read out in Moscow. Preventing a few oil tankers from reaching St. Petersburg to load Russian oil might be one option.

Also, the question of "what's on our menu for countering dirt cheap weapons" needs to be asked in many countries, and likely has been being asked for a while now. My bet: air-dropped unpowered glide vehicles that intercept a drone. No motor, just enough velocity and altitude from the fighter (or farmer) which brought them.

Putin has a history of doing exactly that. I think you're right

I had a feeling that was why the NOTAMs were issued. I suspected they were going to finally shoot shit down.