As per reports, OceanGate's carbon fiber hull was unsuited for dives into such depths. In a video now going viral, CEO Stockton Rush is seen admitting that he knows there are issues, but he is taking the risk anyway.
OceanGate's sub Titan, (L), wreck of the Titanic on the seafloor (R)
The HMS Titanic had sunk on April 15, 1912, taking more than 1500 people with it. 111 years later, 4 high-profile passengers and the CEO of the OceanGate company, who was the pilot of the tourist submersible ‘Titan’, died after their sub imploded due to extreme pressure deep in the North Atlantic Ocean.
The US Coast Guard has confirmed that one of their ROVs from the vessel Horizon Arctic located the debris of a tail comb from the OceanGate sub-Titan approximately 1600 feet from the bow wreckage of the Titanic on the seafloor. Other debris was also found scattered in the general area. The debris was confirmed to be from Titan, the lost tourist sub from OceanGate.
Speaking to the media, OceanGate’s co-founder Guillermo Stohnlein said that in the case of any failure, the implosion would have been instantaneous.
It is notable here that the Titanic wreckage sits at a depth of around 3800 meters. As per reports, the implosion at a depth like that causes immediate crushing of the vessel and everything inside it. The pilot and the passengers would have died within a few milliseconds.
CEO of OceanGate was the pilot, the 4 passengers included the billionaire explorer Hamish Harding, a British-Pakistani father-son duo named Shahzada Dawood and Suleiman Dawood, and the popular ‘Mr Titanic’ Paul-Henry Nargeolet. Nargeolet, a French Navy veteran, was part of the first expedition to visit the wreck in 1987, just two years after it was found. He has earned the moniker ‘Mr. Titanic’ as he has reportedly spent more time at the wreck than any other explorer.
The deceased CEO’s wife is a descendant of an old couple who died in the Titanic disaster in 1912
Wendy Rush, the wife of OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, is the great-great-grandaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus, an old couple who had perished in the Titanic disaster in 1912. The old couple was depicted in James Cameron’s Oscar-winning movie too.
Isidor and Ida Straus were first-class passengers who had refused to board a lifeboat and had gone down with the ship on that fateful night in 1912.
Titanic tours
Tourists spend thousands of dollars to be taken to the wreckage of the liner, 12,500ft underwater. It is claimed that OceanGate Expeditions charges $250,000 (£195,270) for a place on its eight-day expedition.
It is important to note that submersibles are different from submarines. A submersible needs a mother ship that can launch it and recover it. Contrary to it, a submarine has enough power to leave port and come back to port on its own.
37 years ago, the wreckage of the Titanic was discovered in the Atlantic, around 400 nautical miles from Newfoundland, Canada. A team led by legendary explorer Robert Ballard had found the vessel.
OceanGate sub had ‘quality’ issues
As per reports, OceanGate’s carbon fiber hull was unsuited for dives into such depths. In a video now going viral, CEO Stockton Rush is seen admitting that he knows there are issues, but he is taking the risk anyway.
On Sunday morning, the surface crew of the accompanying tug boat had lost contact with the submersible one hour and 45 minutes after it went down the sea.
OceanGate staff had confirmed that in addition to a very limited oxygen supply, those onboard will also be experiencing frigid temperatures.
As per reports, David Lochridge, former director of marine operations associated with OceanGate, had refused to greenlight the sub, citing that the viewport is only certified to withstand pressure up to the depth of 1300 meters. The wreckage of the Titanic sits at a depth of 3800 meters on the ocean floor.
Lochridge was fired by OceanGate later. Months later, over 3 dozen people from the industry, including deep sea explorers and oceanographers included, had voiced concerns and warned the company of potential ‘catastrophic problems’ with their tours using that sub. Lochridge had also stated that OceanGate was unwilling to have the sub inspected and certified by established agencies.
Phew, I wonder if the rich people really understood the dangers.
The CEO/Pilot won't get much compassion from me, I think he was told be enough people that the vehicle wasn't safe for the job.
Not sure how much of that was communicated to the passengers though.
I know they had to sign a waiver, but you have to do that for a lot of things that are much more safe.
Holy fuck, what a scumbag. How is it legal to run this kind of operation (or why doesn't the police intervene if it isn't), when a number of experts have doubts about the safety of the vehicles and the submersible hasn't been certified.
Is a liability waver enough to basically send people down in a death trap and charge them money on top of that? Shouldn't be there something like OSHA but for consumer rights, ensuring the safety of such a vehicle? Can you just run a waterpark with slides with 90 degree corners and selling asbestos ice cream?
But even though the liability waivers were pretty clear. Stating the sub had no form of certification. And death is possible.
The fact that he has had staff state that the design andspooed cracks. Means it is likely,worthless. You cannot as a corp contract your way out of that sort of liability.
He would still legally have a responsibility to address the issues. As he fired the expert who pointed it out. And that expert specifically mentioned the time of a caterstrofic failure would not allow their fancy audio warning system to work effectively.
Yeah the company is likely to be held liable. The only question really. Is after the CEOs death. Dose the company have the assets to be able to cover it. No insurance is likely to be involved. And the company was apparently losing money on this venture. Seems unlikely that his personel assets will be obtainable past the corporate protection.
Will be interesting to see what happens if family take it to court.
I mean, depending on how deeply the passengers were informed, I think that this should be legal.
If they actually got the information from the dissenting voices, and understood the risks, then I think it should be legal.
But I'd hazard to guess that they didn't get all the relevant info. The CEO is dead now, not sure how many other people were involved in the whole thing, so not sure who you could sue.
Dumping garbage in international waters is illegal. I'd argue a submarine made out of subpar materials and the corpses of multiple rich assholes counts as garbage.
Is this true? This article seems to disagree, if anyone knows more about this topic I'd love to hear it.
Is murder legal in international waters?
Put simply; no, murder is not legal in international waters. You can not kill someone in international waters and claim immunity from the laws of the land. Despite international waters appearing as if it is some anarchic place where criminal elements go to do their dirty job, such as slavery, murder, illegal experiments and even, possibly, drug manufacturing, you must comply with the law of the country where your boat is registered.
If you want to do business in international maritime operations, your ship must be registered in accordance to the international law. They state that your ship must carry a flag of the country where it is registered. And, quite simply, while you are in the international waters you must comply with the law of the country whose flag you are flying. It means that what is illegal in Panama, is illegal in a ship flying Panama’s flag. By the way, it is estimated that around 40 % of the ocean-going commercial ships are registered in Panama, Marshal Islands and Liberia – it is a way for ship operators to pay smaller taxes and salaries to workers.
111 years later, 4 high-profile passengers and the CEO of the OceanGate company, who was the pilot of the tourist submersible 'Titan', died after their sub imploded due to extreme pressure deep in the North Atlantic Ocean. The US Coast Guard has confirmed that one of their ROVs from the vessel Horizon Arctic located the debris of a tail comb from the OceanGate sub-Titan approximately 1600 feet from the bow wreckage of the Titanic on the seafloor. The debris was confirmed to be from Titan, the lost tourist sub from OceanGate. Wendy Rush, the wife of OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, is the great-great-grandaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus, an old couple who had perished in the Titanic disaster in 1912. Lochridge had also stated that OceanGate was unwilling to have the sub inspected and certified by established agencies.
The Titanic (the story and the wreckage) has claimed more lives that the initial event itself. More specifically in the sinking of the Cap Arcona during the filming of the Nazi propaganda version of "The Titanic". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cap_Arcona