4d ago

UK Leftists Warnings

cross-posted from: https://reddthat.com/post/48281948

Source: Mastodon.

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Legitimately sending best of luck from the US. We may be the star of the show right now but there are many fronts to this war and on the privacy/security front it's crazy that you guys somehow seem to have it worse.
- Somehow
  The U.K. doesn't have rights or separation of powers like the U.S. does.
  
  The current regime in the States has shown that the US doesn't have rights or separation of powers like the US thought it did.
There's coming a day, very quickly, when it'll be too late, and even if we want to fight, it won't work.
"Leftist's warnings"? Perhaps 40 years ago, but it's come from both sides over the last 20, and yet leftists still pushed for this stuff, as much as anyone.
Language policing is always the tool of whoever is currently in power - they'll always use it to their advantage.
- Leftists, not liberals.
  
  I think we need a better word than "leftist", because there's a LOT of different alignments on "the left", several of which are wildly opposed to each other in some areas. It really doesn't accurately describe somebody's stances, and is easily conflated with "anything that isn't conservative".
- Leftists didn't. Labour was left under Corbyn, but the right of the party undermined him and now run the country. Campaigning against immigration, cutting disability benefits over tax rises, preventing access to puberty blockers. Not providing a view on trans bathroom access after legal clarification that screwed rights. Nothing about them is economically or socially left wing.
  Oh, and last 20 years have been under Tory rule minus 5 from 2005 to 2010 under a New Labour right leaning labour under Blair that Keir idolised.
  I do agree the problem is autocrats though.
  
  There hasn't been an actually leftist government in the UK since Harold Wilson. Each successive Labour Prime Minister has been more and more aligned with Tory principals than genuine left leaning Labour principals both economically and socially.
  The closest we've had would be Jeremy Corbyn but the media barons and Blairite Labour members devoted huge amounts of time and money to sabotaging him.
  The SNP's social platform could broadly be described as leftist and is certainly left of Westminster, the same could be said for Welsh Labour, but economically they're still tied to Tory-liteism.
  
  Minor correction: Blair was from 1997 to 2007, which means if we're looking at the last 20 years, it's 2005–2007. Then he's replaced by Brown, also Labour, until 2010.
The war against terror
Like the war on crime
Is a war on anyone, anytime
Subhumans
What's this new lemmy instance? never heard of reddthat or redlemmy. always good to have more!
- No idea but I welcome more instances because it makes it harder for my government to attack it.
- These were Reddit bridges when the exodus happened

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