Hello, fellow humans.
Hello, fellow humans.
Hello, fellow humans.
Now I have to watch the whole series again lol
Yeah same 🤣. This is a great excuse to do so.
Still better human than Zuckerberg
He's a better human than most.
I learned to do this in job interviews. It works!
Is this canon or did the poster just cherry pick a few instances?
This might be legit. Brent Spiner said in interviews that he was consciously keeping track of Data’s growth during the series. He intentionally made him feel like a blank canvas that behaved in an uncanny way at first, and slowly introduced more and more human mannerisms and warmth to his character.
Without instruction, for seven years & four movies. He was probably doing the same thing during Picard.
Thank you.
I feel like the time(s?) he played future Data he "jumped ahead" on the mannerisms too.
Can I note that Data served many years in Starfleet prior to the start of TNG? He wasn't activated the day before the Encounter at Farpoint mission started. He would have had years of experience working with humans by that point.
You'll see him mimicking behavior throughout the series. One of my favorite examples is in Starship Mine aka "Star Trek does a Die Hard" with Data's attempts at small talk.
I’m convinced that a lot of his footage in that episode was Spiner goofing off or intentionally blowing takes and they just used whatever they could.
There’s an outtake of the scene when he’s “being Hutchinson” to Troi Crusher and Riker. In the episode it’s the same scene cut short because the extended scene quickly devolves into crude humor that couldn’t be aired on network TV at the time - both Frakes and Sirtis McFadden gasping at what Spiner said.
I do that too, it's just (ez) masking, it makes others perceive me more human-like.
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Which is absolutely necessary to 'live in a society' & not get constantly excluded.
Sucks to have to work that hard just to hang out.
It's not even to just hang out, it's for normal opportunities (like getting a job, asking for some services from other humans, etc). Basically to at least not repel other humans (even showing constant kindness doesn't help in some cases bcs simply "to weird/alien" & thus unpleasant, even without any accidental miscommunication, which happens with my body language all the time).
Data is a mimic. Got it.
I always super identified with adata growing up, awkward social interaction, and I, myself did the mimicry thing, still catch myself doing it when meeting new people. I found out I'm autistic 3 years ago, and Data is a SUPER autistic coded character.
Yeah, all those episodes about how Data was awkward and stilted when trying to interact with humans, and he would have gotten along well with certain neurodivergent ones. Same applies to Vulcans, really - the ones that actually uphold the ideals of logic and aren't all smarmy about it, at least.
I saw an interview a while back where Brent Spiner said he only found out that autistic people identified with Data years after the show was over. He said it was good he didn't know at the time, because it might have ruined the performance if he were aware of it while doing it.
Not gonna lie, I've read a lot about the series and heard many people talk about it, in particular Mike and Rich Evans at redlettermedia, and I am stunned to that I have never heard any reference to this. Made my day reading this, I should probably just bite the bullet and watch the whole series.
Brent Spiner might be a seriously underrated actor. My two fav Data episodes are 'A Fistful of Datas' where Spiner is playing as multiple holodeck characters at once, and (forgot ep name) where he's taken over by an entire alien civilization and he's rapidly switching between multiple alien personalities. Watching Brent Spiner perform Data's complex roles is a friggin' master class in acting. Watching Data "glitch" mid sentance for example. Spiner is just incredible
The other episode is Masks.
Masaka is waking!
He actually thinks the masks episode was one of his weaker episodes because he had almost no prep time. It's basically all personalities he made up on the spot. But thats why he's so great, because I never would have known.
Brent was even pretty great in Enterprise no? As
Not sure about that one film though
The first handful of episodes, you could tell that spiner was trying to figure out how to play data. There's something just ... Off about his portrayal of the Android.... It's hard to describe.
But, to be blunt, there were a lot of things that were "off" about season 1.....
Yeah, that was pretty much everyone in Season 1. The whole show was trying to figure out how to be itself.
That's weird. I've never really heard much criticism of season 1 before.