Proton freezes Swiss investment over surveillance fears
Proton freezes Swiss investment over surveillance fears
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Proton freezes Swiss investment over surveillance fears
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iirc proton has complied with requests to identify users before too.
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Legal requests, which they were legally obligated to comply with. Every single country in the world will have some avenue to require data to be released to authorities.
That’s why strong privacy at every layer is so important. E2EE, for instance, means Proton cannot turn over any data that was transferred to and from customers. Private payments mean the company can’t turn over data on who is paying for accounts. DoH means the company can’t turn over data on what sites customers visited. Etc…
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Switzerland has strong privacy laws, but there are still situations where they legally have to comply. Of course, Proton also collects very little data and keeps things end to end encrypted, so even if they have to provide data, it’s not much.
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That's why my email provider is in Norway and not Switzerland. Norway has much stronger privacy laws.
What? Police can "subpoena" whatever the fuck they want. ISPs must log and keep them for years. Will share with allied intelligence services and Interpol. Never thought of Norwegian privacy laws as particularly strong..
First time I hear about them, how long have you been using their service?
A good 10 years. I've had zero issues, with my account or my family members'.
The article states that Proton plans to move certain (AI) data centers to Germany and Norway, as they seemed those the most sensitive. I can imagine if these laws/policies are enacted, they would look to move all services.
Well, Proton can move wherever they want and be as good as they what, I'll never be a customer again because of what their fuckhead CEO Andy Yen said.
I don't care that he's backpedaled, I don't care that Andy Yen isn't Proton-the-company, and I'm even willing to accept it was a very unfortunate duh moment on his part. Here the thing: I don't have many ways as a nobody to get back at Trump, but one way is to not give any of my money to anybody who enabled him, even by mistake.
So Proton is on my shitlist forever thanks to Yen.
I think the reason is not sensitivity, but that it's less risky to move a very new, niche service if they fuck it up somehow. as I understood their announcement they may move other services too later on
Yeah right, so much better to have your e-mails stored in clear text. With E2EE, I don’t give any fucks about local laws. My data stays my data.
metadata is very important too. arrests are made, and drone strikes are approved over it.
Doesn't proton's e2ee only work if you're emailing with another proton user?
Oh, thanks for making me aware of this. I've never heard of them despite living in Norway