What is wrong with being "Black Pilled"?
What is wrong with being "Black Pilled"?
If someone wants to give up dating due to their looks, age or genetics (that includes mental state) that's a totally valid reason if you ask me. As long as it doesn't translate to misogyny no one will get hurt. However a lot of people seem to be ticked off by this idea, why?
The term black pill, first popularized in the 2010s on the incel blog Omega Virgin Revolt, refers to accepting the futility of fighting against a feminist system. Blackpilled incels are encouraged to either commit suicide or “go ER”/be a “hERo,” referencing Elliot Rodger’s 2014 Isla Vista murder spree that has been called an act of misogynistic terrorism.
(Source: Britannica)
So as I said, as long as it doesn't translate to misogyny it won't hurt anyone.
the futility of fighting against a feminist system
Is a bullshit premise that's not based in reality. This isn't a "feminist system."
Also, "won't hurt anyone" yet calls for them to commit suicide within 3 sentences.
The term is connected to misogyny. If someone just wants to give up dating and that's the end of it, there's no reason for anyone to be ticked off by that idea. It's the doomer attitude surrounding it and the effects of it that cause problems. You used the term 'black pill', which has specific connotations - it's not simply choosing to give up dating.
I don't know... but what that previous comment describes, sounds to me as if misogyny is the core concept
I want to set aside my skepticism that this philosophy can be separated from misogyny.
Even if it could, it hurts the practitioner. This is a philosophy of nihilistic abandon and self-harm. If someone has adopted a radical belief in their own hopelessness and worthlessness, and the associated beliefs that life for them can hold nothing but suffering, that person is in crisis and needs help. There isn't a healthy version of that, and we should consider those people at great risk and in need of assistance.
It does hurt someone. It hurts the person who is adopting these views.
To be frank what youre suggesting is only taking certain elements from the ideology but not some of the largest core concepts. So there's nothing wrong with that in concept but at that point it's a different ideology and as such you'd no longer be "blackpilled"
The OP in another timeline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYITxGniww4
Did you miss the second sentence or... ?
Can I just dislike anyone that uses colored pill references.
The polite phrasing is pills of color
Yes because you’ve take the pill pill
Well technically 'black' isn't a colour...
Dunno how old you are, but this is how children reply to this kind of thing. Just an fyi
From my understanding, the "black pill community" is highly misogynistic and promotes self harm and mass violence / terrorism. I don't think anyone would care if it was just a bunch of guys deciding they didn't wanna date.
There's no ideology described as being "pilled" that's anything but toxic.
People who say they take the black pill haven't actually taken it yet
Do incels have some core complaints with validity? Yeah, online dating has been designed specifically to make the majority of people using it feel bad. There are genuine problems that men face in society that women don't and they don't get support for. However you can't pick and choose the members of your ideology, only your choice to share it with them
The ultimate problem is that red/blue/black pill ideology is all rooted in the manosphere and incel culture. By utilizing their terminology you are associating yourself with a group of misogynists, racists, and terrorists
Which is to say someone who says "my MS makes my life difficult enough as is, so I choose not to struggle with dating on top of it" is different from "I've been blackpilled because these Stacys won't consider dating below 8.5/10s"
There're other points to be made with regards to being "too ugly to date", why people dislike non-traditional sexualities, and modern dating culture. However, I'd bet if you went into the real world and talked to real people about specific struggles leading to deciding to no longer date without a bunch of internet words you would see a lot more support
I wasn't familiar with the term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#"Blackpill"
It doesn't sound good at all.
It does not sound like a happy bunch to hang around. Is that what you aspire to have as a part of your identity?
Is that what you aspire to have as a part of your identity?
Well it makes no difference whether you do or don't. That's the point of taking the black pill.
If you don't date because you are ugly/mental/whatever and thus black pilled then that is a part of your identity. Instead you spend all the time playing games.
If you don't date because you put zero effort into your looks because you're busy playing video games then games becomes a part of your identity.
You're doing exactly the same thing but your choice is what emotional baggage comes with the crowd you choose to identify with. That in turn will influence you and your own mental well being over the decades.
I've never heard that term. I get that some people choose not to date, but don't most people just live- go to work, grocery, social events, etc.- and talk to the people around them? I don't really see someone saying, "hey, if that nice girl talks to me I'm going to ignore her."
Once you have been around enough rejections you will know it's better not to feed those emotions.
I wholeheartedly agree.
There are better emotions to feed, and they don’t tend to result in rejection.
“Black pill” is a different thing from not dating.
I never dated, just spent time with people who shared my interests. Eventually, I and one of the people who I shared interests with realized that we were often doing so exclusive of other people.
We essentially went from just living our lives to everyone seeing us as a couple, eventually us included.
Pursuing dating for the emotional high will let you down every time. Being real about who you are and what drives you, and learning to have healthy give and take relationships that don’t involve unrealistic expectations means you’ll end up with a more fulfilling life.
TIL all aromantic (aro) persons are misogynists (but not misandrists) by reading the comments.
That is very obviously not what anyone is saying. Not dating because you are not interested in dating is different than not dating because you're down on yourself and blame the world (and those of the gender you find attractive) for creating your situation.
That is very obviously not what anyone is saying. Not dating because you are not interested in dating is different than not dating because you're down on yourself and blame the world (and those of the gender you find attractive) for creating your situation.
Yes it is. People who are not into dating for that reason (aro) are explicitly being called incels by you in your reply to me. Anyone who isn't dating without being aro is an incel. You're a bigot.
You're the kind of person who would be calling a guy gay (but using the really derogatory terms, fag .. ) because he doesn't have a girlfriend in the last century.
I'm old and feel sorry for people who just want to be left alone for their own reasons. Why is this so called liberal - which in my mind means live and let live - baying-mob so much more vindictive and nasty than I could have ever imagined (rhetoric question).
Which comment is saying that? Everyone is being pretty explicit about the differences between choosing not to date because you're uninterested versus because you think you're too ugly.