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More than half of Americans - and 83% of Democrats - say ICE has gone ‘too far’ in arresting migrants: poll

www.independent.co.uk

More than half of Americans say ICE has gone ‘too far’ in arresting migrants: poll

More than half of Americans believe that Immigration and Customs Enforcement has gone “too far” in its pursuit of arresting migrants, according to a new poll.

While 54 percent said ICE has used its power too aggressively, the sentiment was even greater among Democrats at 83%, according to a poll by PBS News, NP and Marist.

Nearly half of Republicans, by contrast, said ICE’s actions are appropriate and an additional 31% said the agency had not gone far enough in enforcing Donald Trump’s mass deportation agenda.

The vast majority of Americans (80%) support the U.S. government's deportation of migrants without permanent legal status who have been convicted of a violent crime.

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Seems like the number is too low.
- People have to remember the majority of Americans barely know wtf is going on in their own country. They aren't high-information like the kind of people on lemmy or reddit. They have no idea how bad it is yet.
- Even though Trump is still underwater on immigration, it’s his highest performing issue.
  
  That is just frighteningly upsetting
  
  Just like Netanyahu with the handling of Gaza. Lots of people approve. Some people think he's not going fascist enough.
Their opinion doesn't count, as long as the big corporations and racist lobbyists are happy, the people's will means nothing.
- The Trumpistan party doesn't intend to be elected ever again. That's their last attempt. They try to take the country by a coup now. They don't intend to face any votings, ever again. That's why they're acting like this.
  
  Exactly, that's where I was trying to get to, is there a plan, general strike, mass protests to cripple the country? Or is it going to be a wimper into the goodnight..
Good thing the Senate just voted to give ICE 200 billion dollars
- Almost four times the Marines request for the budget. Why the fuck do they need that much money!? Oh right, ggrrrrriiiiffffttt!
The problem is that last one:
The vast majority of Americans (80%) support the U.S. government’s deportation of migrants without permanent legal status who have been convicted of a violent crime.
How far can "violent" and "conviction" be stretched in order to justify wrongful deportations?
- Well, peaceful protests are considered violent. Disagreeing with Trump is considered a mental illness. And supporting Palestine is considered anti-American. Sooo, basically we're all targets.
- When you are talking about a survey, the "how far" is specific to each person. So it is a bad question. But no matter how Donny interprets it, the answer to the "have they gone too far" tells you Donnys interpretation is too far for the majority.
- It seems to me that they can be stretched just shy of infinitely, because sources aren't reliable and people aren't paying attention. That is, when a source reports on what's happening with as little bias and editorializing as humanly possible, it is labeled as "left bias" while the conservative news sources don't bother talking about the problems with ICE at all. As long as that's the case, they can basically get away with anything because their human rights abuses won't get enough coverage or will be dismissed by enough of the population that it won't actually have an impact.
- its actually specific people with names and phone numbers you can call and yell at https://www.newsweek.com/75-democrats-house-antisemitism-resolution-ice-gratitude-2083177
17% of democrats think abducting people to death camps is totally fine.
Fuck all of them.
- More than 17% Those are just the ones who'll admit to it.
  All those Dems clutching their pearls over "Defund ICE" posters are very happy to see Hispanics ethnically cleansed.
Get used to it. They’re coming after natural born citizens next, and the courts will allow it. Congress will continue to do nothing.
- They did do something. They passed the big beautiful bill that has funding for more ice detention centers and expansions.
  
  3 times the budget for the Marines. Crazy
54 percent seems low.... Bad media literacy or wilful ignorance?
- Both. Also the hate frenzy. Lots of people swept up in a hate frenzy
- Well only 83% of Dems are critical of it. So 54% means a decent amount of Reps are critical, which is more than I would think.
That's horrifyingly low
How the hell is it only 83% of Democrats?
Doesn’t matter what the polls say, they and Donny could have -100% support and they would still arrest your ass because of a meme you posted or what ethnicity your great great great grandfather was.
Are democrats not Americans? How oddly worded.
- Not if Trump gets his way
Stop complaining about it and start lining them up for curb stomping wherever you see them, you know, as a community.
Also, fuck your violence rules bullshit - nazis aren’t people, I’m basically suggesting we curb stomp a cancerous growth.
And before some of you geniuses start claiming I’m the same as them - first, go fuck yourself. Second, I hate them based on their world view - a malleable thing they are in control of. Not their race, not their hair color, not their parents country of origin.
Nazi lives do not matter, kill em when you can if you can get away with it.
- Show, don't tell.
  
  More than fair. Working on my community organizing skills as a start.
America got exactly what they voted for. Dear Leader promised mass arrests, deportations, and incarceration.
A million deaths are not enough for MAGA.
The nearly Half of Republicans who AGREED with ICES Actions are the ones whose Spouses and Children have ALSO been Deported and Jailed! Because NOTHING is More Important to a Republican then NOT having to call a 3 Year He or She!
E Pluribus Unum, anyone?
Nothing has been done. This escalated every month and will only continue.
They also got this massive budget thanks to the bill that just got passed.
We’re past that. One could say we met the edge of the universe

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