The public think everything has got worse under the Tories, a new poll has found
The public think everything has got worse under the Tories, a new poll has found
All utterly predictable, but British voters couldn’t collectively bring themselves to vote for Corbyn, so …
Shame Corbyn wouldn't step down so someone that wasn't disliked by so many voters could step in
Why would he step down when he had a pretty significant mandate from Labour party members to be their leader?
I think Corbyn was a bad person to lead the Labour party (I agree with his policies but he just wasn't leadership material), but IMO we should be absolutely hammering the electorate for not holding their noses up and voting the guy that wasn't Boris effing Johnson.
That’s because it has, but it’s nice that people seem to be realising that at least.
It’s the first step (of many) to getting stuff back on track.
I hope the momentum of this lasts for longer than 3 days after the election
Why are they still voting for them though? The propaganda engine is too strong?
People haven’t had a chance to vote in a general election since the Boris Johnson stepping down event. I doubt they will make it in next year, I imagine it could be decimation for the Tories
Yes.
They aren't voting for them. Only 43.6% are, but it's FPTP and they are not all voting for the same non-Tory.
Alternative title: People have eyes
If you cut funding to public services obviously they get worse this is not exactly a revelation. It's not that they don't know what they're doing they just don't care and they think they'll going to get away with it.
I sincerely hope they do not. I am following the tenacity that some are fighting Trump in the US. We could use some of that here.
I'm all for imprisoning Boris. He's committed enough crimes to have several life sentences by now, we just need to pick some of them.
My concern is that at the next election the Greens and the lib Dems will split the left-wing vote. So I sincerely hope that labor get their heads out of the their arse and present an actual manifesto with some actual substance to it. I'm concerned they won't.
This "everything is worse" feeling is not something that has any link to any political party.
If life is percieved to get worse under any party's reign, whether to Tories as is the case now, Labour if they were elected, or SNP or whatever, they will blame whoever is in charge at the moment.
It's happening now, it's happening with the Democrats in the US, with Liberals in Canada, and to a lesser extent, the ruling coalition in Germany with AfD getting a surge thanks to people just generally discontent with life.
How much of that is their fault is something up for debate. It's not 100% their fault, and it also isn't 100% not their fault either. The same reactionary thoughts that are coming now from this here are giving the Conservative party in Canada a resurgence. I have a feeling most of you don't like that, but it's the truth.
When people are thinking life is getting worse, they will vote in whoever is not part of the current leadership.
Clearly you are not from the UK, or you would not be saying this. Every single service in the UK has deteriorated badly under this government. I don't mean feels badly, it is statistically much worse. The UK has been subjected to a heist where they have stolen billions from us. Google Michelle Mone, Sunak's family gain when he "gave" new oil licenses, the peerage being sold, the Russian influence, and the list goes on and on.
I would also like to point out just how LONG it's been a Tory government. Even though Torylite Blair gave the UK a "break", it has been the Tories specifically eroding any welfare the country has had over a long period of time.
Lots of people really, really want transformative change, whether it's because of climate-ecological breakdown, rabid inequality, or just because they've been economically hard-pressed for years, and see no way out, even for their children.
They are moving to political extremes. Sometimes this means to the left - in much of Europe 10 years ago radical parties like Syriza and Podemos swept away the old centre-left - the Communist Party were in the radical left coalition government in Portugal (very successful, by the way); Sanders almost won the US Democrat nomination (and probably would have beaten Trump). But some also moved to the radical right - a slower burn, but perhaps now gathering more force.
It's true that this longing for real change often means rejecting, reacting against incumbents - but it goes deeper. A mere change of ruling party won't crack it - indeed, my own belief is that if say a 'moderate' Labour Party gets elected in the UK and doesn't radically change anything much, the reaction will be subsequent election of an even more extreme and empowered right than the Tories are now. Maybe that's what Biden has done in the US (though he has been much more radical than UK Labour promises - and has kept radicals like Sanders and AOC on board, which Starmer hasn't).
Yes and no. This lot have been in power long enough that cans that were kicked down the road are being caught up with / balls kicked into the long grass are being found / chickens are home to roost.
You can see it with crises as diverse as public sector pay and RAAC in schools.
Because it has & it's measurable in several different metrics.
Fuck the Torys.
TBF at this point the tories think the tories have gotten worse under the tories.
It's like woolworth's employees sticking around to the final day, so they can continue to steal sweets from the pick n mix.
Hard to disagree though.
I mean fucking obviously it's gotten worse "under the Tories" but what a loaded and useless question.
How about, "Are you confident things would have been any different under anybody else?
And every general election I have said this. But the british public on the whole are idiots
Same everywhere, including Ontario where I’m from. People complained nonstop about what our Premiere did to the province and then there was the lowest turnout in election history and he got elected to another majority. Something like 50% of people didn’t show up and we had mail in ballots, couldn’t be easier. Embarrassing.
It's the same in Portugal. Everything has become shit(tier) after 8 years of centre-left PS, but vote intentions are still leaning towards them.
Democracy is a beautiful thing: people get exactly what they deserve.
Except the UK doesn't have democracy. It has first past the post voting, which does not reflect the will of the people and leads to millions of votes being wasted
I disagree there. People can only work from the information they are presented with. The problem is with the establishment and how they protect their own.
It's FPTP. Only 43.6% voted for this. The majority didn't vote for this.