Germany’s spy chief: Russians support Putin and his war
Germany’s spy chief: Russians support Putin and his war
www.pravda.com.ua
Germany’s spy chief: Russians support Putin and his war
cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/13980986
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When you control the media telling everyone what to think, it's not much of a surprise is it? Hitler did it, Putin did it, Trump is trying his damnedest and is mostly there...
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I know what you are getting at and to an extent you aren't wrong but Russians definitely have access to foreign information. They also have a tendency to find state propaganda laughably easy to spot (according to the Russians I have spoken with). They support the war because it benefits them IMO
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Oh sure, the same goes for everywhere else as well... but being blasted with propaganda 24/7 is a huge problem for the majority of people all over the world. Just like we all know about fox news, but if they had treated trump like they did the democrats, trump would have had a much harder battle to fight.
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Now do Israel :)
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Do they support Putin too?
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They definitely do not support Ukraine. Also it's pretty damn obvious @unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de was refering to the genocide being conducted by Israel and its allies, not Putin.
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No but they overwhelmingly support their own violent genocidal government. I guess there already are enough polls that prove that tho.
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For many of them it’s still far away. But I note the ukrainian counter of russian casualties is about to pass a million. While there is 'fog of war' it's easier to say people are missing, so friends and relatives can keep hoping that theirs is the special case. During any prolonged ceasefire, it would become clearer who's gone forever - which is one reason why P avoids this situation (and also bans NGOs like soldier's mothers, who used to help connect these dots).
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Though I don’t doubt many do, it’s important to remember that it’s more or less illegal to not support the war. Not an excuse, but a reason.
It's the reason why some russians (not that many) have left the country and some (very few) tried protesting.
After three years of war, though, those joining the army, those working in factories producing shahed drones or other weapons, those supporting the army indirectly, they actually support the war.
Yes, it's all the result of propaganda, but they do believe the official line, they do think that they're trying to liberate.
So while it's illegal to be against war there, very few are breaking that even in their heads. And when we hear "x% of ruzzians want peace", it only means that they want the victory rather sooner, because their life is somewhat uncomfortable.
I guess this song is still relevant then: Super Good · Сергей Шнуров
...and Germany's spy chief knows this, so I'm wondering where this article comes from.
And there's a state propaganda ecosystem making the war look normal and okay, and most people just aren't that into politics.
Civilians are civilians. Sometimes they're dumb, but we're still not supposed to demonise them.