Fears of peace talks with Putin rise amid US squabbling

Great, another Hexbear brigading thread. Hexbear needs to be defederated, it's a bunch of fake communists spreading authoritarian propaganda.

Agreed. Hexbear and lemmygrad idiots are pretending to be all for peace and yet support the war mongers in russia.
These instances are a magnet for dishonesty and propaganda. Plus they have a 4chan attitude towards discussions, i.e. they keep shifting goalposts if you press them and throw absurd statements at you while doing so. There is nothing redeeming of those places.
They didn't even read the article either clearly lol
One Baltic official, requesting anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic, told The Hill that Baltic states are concerned that pushing Ukraine into negotiations will have dangerous ripple effects throughout the region.
This is the "fears of peace talks"
cry ab it, oh wait you already are
The Hill is propaganda? Do you even hear yourself?
- I didn't say that and I'm pretty sure you know that's not what I meant.

Yes Ukraine is free to ignore them. The western coalition funding Ukraine's war effort is also free to stop doing so. I'm not saying this to express that I wish Ukraine to be pressured to settle, but instead to highlight that Ukraine is not a self-reliant actor in this conflict.
Do you know anything about Ukraine or what Zelensky campaigned on for his election campaign? Do you know what Ukranians want? Are you Ukrainian?
- I know they consider themselves a free, self-governing nation who can negotiate their own terms.
- Did Putin campaign on committing genocide? Is that what Russians want? I don't think so.
I know it's hard for a NAFO bot to understand, but Ukraine lost its sovereignty when US overthrew the democratically elected government in a violent coup.
- Lol
- 🤡
Wasn't Ukraine willing to have peace talks last year until our good pal Boris Johnson came in and wrecked it all?
- I believe the peace talks fell apart once they discovered evidence of all the rape and murder committed by the russians.

Russia has done horrible things to the Ukrainian people for a good century now. I hope the Ukraine doesn't get pressured into giving its land and people over to Putin. Any deal needs to give Ukraine all its territory back, and for Russia to keep its military off their border.

What has Ukraine allowed to have happen to it's ethnic Russian population comprising a significant portion of the east of Ukraine done during it's time? You speak like a US state department underling. Whose office are you in exactly?
- Are you making fun of someone for parroting US talking points, while yourself parroting Kremlin talking points?
- I'm pretty left leaning, and I'm against any fascist state trying to turn its neighbors into vassal states for its interest. And yes, that means being against a lot of what the US does as well.
- What has ~~Ukraine~~ Czechoslovakia allowed to have happen [sic] to it's [sic] ethnic ~~Russian~~ German population comprising a decent portion of the ~~east of Ukraine~~ [sic] West of Czechoslovakia done during it's [sic] time?
  The settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace.
  Neville Chamberlain, British Prime Minister, September 30th, 1938.
  More context:
  The Munich Agreement[a] was an agreement concluded at Munich on 30 September 1938, by Nazi Germany, the United Kingdom, the French Republic, and Fascist Italy. The agreement provided for the German annexation of part of Czechoslovakia called the Sudetenland, where more than three million people, mainly ethnic Germans, lived.
- What about what about what about...
- https://www.putin-itogi.ru/putin-voina/

I don't believe this for one second. I haven't heard anything from the Ukraine administration that would suggest in any way that they are interested in peace talks. In fact, their recent choice of putting a Crimean Tatar as the Minister of Defence suggests that they are serious about taking Crimea back from Russia. I hear nothing but absolute resolve by both the Weat and Ukraine to keep fighting until a Ukraine victory.

I hear nothing but absolute resolve by both the Weat and Ukraine to keep fighting until ~~a Ukraine victory.~~
Until the last Ukrainian. That's what I've heard too.
- I know you people don't consider Ukrainians actual humans with agency but they fight because they are forced to do so by Russians. And if they stopped fighting they would be eradicated by Russians. Whether the West wants them to resist Russia or not has no weight in that.
- They're fighting because the last time they didn't fight russia they had the holodomor.
  They haven't forgotten.
- Yeah have you heard about the weapon supply talks with North Korea?
  Kim jong is completely resolute to fight the west, to the last Russian 😢

Worst fucking title.

Fear of peace? That's pretty fucked up.

The fake progressive right wing warmongers of lemmy sitting in their comfortable spaces from across the globe are going to be upset at the prospect of peace.

I wish all the westies cheering this war on would sign up for the foreign legion and go fight the orcs themselves.
- No one is cheering for the war, no matter how many times you say it.
  People may cheer for Ukrainian independence, or for their victories, but no one wants the war to continue. The war can end today, if only Russia decides to give back all the land they took by force, including Crimea.
  You're building a strawman.
- They're a bunch of cold war boomers they don't give a fuck about Ukrainians and they're not progressive in the slightest.

It would probably be a good thing if there can be an end to conscripts killing conscripts.

It really depends. If Russia gets to keep territory it conquered, keep children it kidnapped, not pay for the destruction and murder it wrought, see sanctions lifted and proceed to immediately re-arm and continue on its path of indoctrinating children into becoming fascist warriors for the next round, I wouldn't call that peace.
- Sure, but that's an expectation of demilitarization by nuclear powers, not a cessation of warfare.

Wow, that is some bad title. I would say concerns are justified if Russia can just keep annexing chunks from other countries. It started with Georgia and Ukraine and we can see the same events happening in Moldova currently.

Also if Russia were to share a proper border with Poland then that's pretty much guaranteed WW3, Poland hates Russia with a passion.

Fears of peace talks

Seems like mask off moment. Now i will read the comments if i suspect the resident liberal warmongers are still on their lines.

EDIT: The condensed copium cloud over liberal posts is even denser than imagined, with multiple layers.

my thought as well.
How can anyone has fears of peace talks. jfc
- I'm guessing they fear that like in 2014, they will have to concede land to Russia, which is what they did NOT want to do. It's not the fear talks they fear, it's the result.

This is great news

...I'm sure Ukraine would gladly put down their arms and watch Russia fight eastern European countries instead, if they really want to make this their fight instead of Ukraine's.

It’s not “peace” if Russia gains territory. Then it’s capitulation.

Please upvote this comment if you are a liberal and this headline gave you pause and maybe a nagging "are we the baddies?" moment of reflection

Not upvoting as a diehard commie, just to respect the vote. Would love to see an actual poll of libs on this