Ig Nutomic really hasn't changed his stance on their infamous DM and this time, it was on a public thread
On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR "apology" (ironic)
db0 trying not to be based challenge:
Impossible.
I mean they still left the begging thread up with the "separate the art from the artist" message, and let Nutomic intentionally mislead users about "developer salaries" not going to support .ml. If they really wanted to be based they would have banned Nutomic for being a greedy little pig boy and told people to donate to Piefed.
I mean they still left the begging thread up
That was me [that crossposted; just thought mander had a good idea :)] 😅 Sorry.
with the "separate the art from the artist" message
That's db0's fault to bear :p He actually walked it back later, seeing how nutomic refused to back down his beliefs.
If they really wanted to be based they would have banned Nutomic for being a greedy little pig boy and told people to donate to Piefed.
Good idea--I'd love to do that. I've been swaying all admins on the team to (in a year or two??) maybe switch to piefed. I've also helped a bit with piefed development directly; even helping with some migration tool rimu/AP are interested in. Hopefully we can in the future :D
Honestly, seeing how much of a shitshow that thread was; i think i'm going to delete it. I'll wait for it to cool down in some days, and make a fundraiser post for rimu.
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com appreciation
Probably the best admin on this entire platform, but I am biased as I am under their instance.
Agreed, as another person on dbzer lol
Shadow from lemmy.ca is also great. I've never had a single complaint about how they run things.
This is really shitty but it doesn't surprise me at all. He's trying to make a shift because he doesn't want to face repercussions of being labeled transphobic, possibly being widely banned and ostracized.
It's very different when someone actually realizes they were wrong and want to change and be better. Nutomic isn't doing that here, he just wants people to give donations and to avoid fallout from him letting his opinions slip publicly.
Bro is literally panicking that he might have to get a real job.
this piece of shit will never get any money from me
obviously human rights apply to everyone including transgender people.
I'm not going to get bent out of shape on that statement. It isn't doubling down or escalating like the folks still sending death threats over shit like neopronouns.
I think it's more the evasion and unwillingness to show support for trans rights, which should be easy. The fact he is hesitant or worried to show support indicates he thinks there is something wrong with the view that trans women are women, etc.
Just want to say that a large amount of users on lemmygrad and hexbear have complained about this. This post was even added to the slop community on hexbear because, believe it or not, hexbear does care about transphobia. He was called out 8-9 months ago too. As far as I know he is banned from hexbear, but I might be mistaken.
Most ML parties in the US I've interacted with have been pro trans. CPUSA, PSL, FRSO, APL, (to name a few) are all supportive of trans people.
Y'all are free to criticize tankies to your hearts content, but Nutomics views on this topic do not represent the views of most of the tankies you've interacted with on lemmy.
Yeah even Hexbear is against Nutomics right now. I can personally confirm this.
No idea about lemmygrad personally, but Hexbear is currently calling for Nutomics to remain site banned for this. They banned Nutomics. They don't like him.
I have issues with Hexbear for other reasons, but they are on our side for this issue.
EDIT: They're still against Nutomics and hate their transphobia. So much for "will fall in line when admins give the word." I dislike Hexbear for a lot of reasons but this is not one of them.
9 days later, Hexbear is still aginast Nutomics and their transphobia and doubling down on it.
Weird how you got downvoted for being right.
I'm not really good at refuting the points made against including trans people in sports, but John Oliver in Last Week Tonight did a segment about trans athletes if you actually want to learn about the pro trans athlete arguments.
Do you care more that a significant proportion of the population (0.5% of people depending on statistics) can be comfortable and fit into categories without being discriminated and thus have a community and do sports.
Or do you care more about who wins a medal at the olympics?
Essentially, do you care more about protecting medals or protecting people?
first off thats a hypothetical situation made up for the single purpose of excusing discrimination.
second off, I think you should look into the process of transitioning. It seems that you just think it's bottom surgery ("required procedures") and that's it.
Please learn about this topic before claiming that you know both sides. You can't say its black and white when you haven't even looked into the "required procedures".
A) There's literally a pinned post in this comm that this post is, essentially, a sequel too.
B.1) One of the things they always say on the Tankie Triad is that their instance(s) are trans safe spaces, how can .ml be a trans safe space with a literal transphobe as main admin?
B.2) There's no place in a just world for transphobia
Transphobic bigotry means you shouldn't be breathing, you piece of shit. Fuck you.
oh no he was caught saying tankie buzzwords, russian propaganda intermixed with transphobia. I agree with you, HOW DARE people bring that up infront of bunch of clueless people who want to give him money. This is DISGUSTING he is judged based on his real opinions rather than the carefully-curated online persona.
Maybe you shouldn't make hundreds of accounts, asshole. Ever heard of getting a life?
How can you call "the transgender topic" at all "controversial"? You either support and protect minorities or you don't.
Also, my man db0 is just the goat.
My rights are not a controversy. You're just a bigot.
Weather the whole concept causes controversy vs if trans identity is valid are two separate things.
At one point (before scrambling my instance so lost to this account) I made it a point to create a thread on a LGBT comm just to try and get some insight from people who actually lived it since I'm pretty far off from it and it was pretty enlightening. There are still some things I don't really understand and don't expect I will without direct experience.
In the end though it doesn't cost anything for people to just treat the trans community as regular humans who in no way are hurting you. To that end the notion of if trans ID is valid shouldn't be seen as controversial outside of by those refusing to allow someone else to live their life as they want to.
I mean, it is absolutely controversial. Whether or not it should be controversial is what you seem to be referring to. I 100% agree that it shouldn’t be controversial, because human rights should never be controversial. But as it currently stands, it is an extremely divisive topic with strong opinions in both directions; claiming otherwise is outright disingenuous.