LG TVs’ integrated ads get more personal with tech that analyzes viewer emotions

I recently bought an LG TV. I didn't connect it to the Internet, I just use it with my Chromecast or Switch. Works great, no ads, no AI BS.

If they ever make this a standard feature in all TVs and make it where I can't just disconnect it from the internet, I will be using old TVs for the rest of my life.

My TV is there to display a visual output. It does not and should not do anything else.

So what im hearing is never buy an LG TV. Got it.

Continue to never buy LG products again?

Gotcha. The advertising works, i guess...maybe not how they wanted to, though lol

I'm about to live in a camper full of paper books. I hate everything tech has done in the last twenty years.

Can we please ban electronic advertising already? And billboards? Society would be better off without them.

Holy shit there were so many ads in that article that I just stopped reading. It sucks LG is going down this route. They make really nice displays but now I dont ever want to buy an LG tv if its spying on me to serve me these ‘better’ ads. Fuck advertising. Its turned into a complete monster

Let's be honest: I, as a customer, want to make informed buying decisions. I want to buy food that is tasty and maybe is healthy, but not based on some image that some marketing guys want to push. I want to choose the car which is best (and cheapest) for my purposes, and don't want to be hearded into buying something else. I want to choose the best insurance for me and not be mislead by some emotional ad showing me a happy family.

And I really do not want to be manipulated in an emotional vulnerable moment so that I buy something. That's shady as fuck

Enshittification in progress. Sadly their OLED TVs are amazing, if not for the intrusive ads. It is really crap what all those companies are doing shoving ads our throats.

I am trying to block everything using ad blockers, DNS filtering, Pi hole, etc.

This tech has been in TVs easily for the past ten years.

Did you know this stuff is in most modern cars, too? Fuck. EVERYTHING listens to you now.

I hate to use this phrase, but, back in my day, we used to call this SPYWARE and it was treated as a virus - it was highly unacceptable by people.

This is why you block the camera with a little diorama that shows a single white male viewer...frantically masturbating.

So we pay them to do this to us? I stopped putting tv's on the internet once I realized it offered me nothing useful. Firmware is about it and if that's the case I'll either usb it or put it on the internet for 5 min to do the update. Even then Samsung sucks so much with firmware the release notes for every single update are "bug fixes and improvements"... thanks Samsung.

If I am forced to put it online or it comes up with a way to phone home on its own, I am done buying those kinds of tv's, and I'm sure some other brand will offer one that doesn't, even if it isn't the best one to buy.

I'd rather just not have a tv

Simple solution I use: Fuck television sets, get a computer monitor and basic speakers instead. A display should do only one thing and do it well.

I was describing this to my partner and she thought i said "LGBT". Yes. The LGBTQ community created this technology and weaponized it. Next on Fox News.

that was always my beef with ads, they just didnt speak to me on an emotional level

HOW EXCITING...

said no one ever.

So glad I'm not in the market for a new TV

I’ll never connect a TV to the internet again.

Never connect your tv to WiFi

Don’t buy connected anything

Just buy things that do the thing you want.

No consumer ever asked for a smart tv

Rather have a TV from 1999. Hope LG goes under.

I wonder if they have a "depressed loser" profile and what kind of ads I will get.

if it's anything like the other ai features they offer, it will be garbage and never work and slow everything down

God, I wish we kept our CRT.

I wish there was a TV with absolutely no built in smart features and a slot in the back for a compute module (like a RP CM5).

You know back in the day they were like easily half a dozen custom Android ROMs for any given phone. I'm pretty sure that there's still a diversity of ROMs available.

Why is this not the case with televisions?

This sucks.

The TVs are reporting a lot of anger. Add more cameras!

"Gee, boss. Says here 87% of viewers were angry with the TV for spying on them."

My LG OLED has never seen an internet connection and intend to keep it that way for a very long time: indefinitely.

I rooted my 65" LG TV, and put a pi-hole in front of it.

So glad I haven't got a LGtv, I'd have to buy a sledgehammer as well.

Are there any TV manufacturers out there that do great screens like the lg ones, but without all the rest of the bullshit?

We are in the market for a huge TV soon, and we were looking at the lg oled Evo. However I don't really like rewarding bad behaviour, so if there's any others you can suggest then suggest away...

Hell yeah. Emotionally raping people is super ethical

but why

umm guys this isn't a news article, it's a Black Mirror episode

They'll have to pay for the cellular connection themselves because I'm not gonna enter my wifi password into the tv lol. Been using a pc hooked up to the screen for ages. Screw "smart tv" features, slow and inconvenient as hell.

I see a lot of concern in this thread that future TVs would just peer-to-peer or cellular connect to do their dastardly functions. Wouldn't this be preventable by putting a fine wire mesh around the box on the rear of the panel? Sure, the signal could still go out through the panel, but that's bound to incur a lot of interference from the panel itself, right?

I got a Samsung TV a couple of years ago. I use it with a Roku. It's not on my network. I'll keep it until it stops working because I think eventually TVs will refuse to work without an Internet connection.

Cool one more reason I’ll never connect my display to the internet.

Jokes on them, I have facial paralysis!

Blocked all this crap at the network level. Don't get any ads now.

This is why I switched to sceptre, they're good quality, low cost, dumb displays.

No.

Viewer emotions will anger and frustration at their ads.

NOPE

Nope.

Don't like that.

Good that there's Pi-hole or similar solutions. Have both LG and Samsung at home and if I see what Pi-hole drops and how talkative both vendor TVs are... bloody hell! Don't use the stock functions anyway, Apple TVs are doing there job here so I took them offline a while ago. Anyway, the whole industry is turning into a completely wrong direction...

LG TVs will soon leverage an AI model built for showing advertisements that more closely align with viewers' personal beliefs and emotions. The company plans to incorporate a partner company’s AI tech into its TV software in order to interpret psychological factors impacting a viewer, such as personal interests, personality traits, and lifestyle choices. The aim is to show LG webOS users ads that will emotionally impact them.

“As viewers engage with content, ZenVision's understanding of a consumer grows deeper, and our... segmentation continually evolves to optimize predictions,” the ZenVision website says.

Going beyond ads, if you start training AIs on human preference based on mass-harvested emotional data, I imagine that you can optimize output quite considerably. Like, say I have facial recognition being converted to emotional response data, maybe something like smartwatch pulse data, some other stuff, and I go train an AI to try to produce a given emotional output in a viewer. I bet that they can do a pretty good job of that. Like, maybe how to piss people off at a target in political campaigns, build an AI that has a potent ability to emotionally-manipulate and flirt with humans, or ensure that interest doesn't waver in television content by determining at what points people have less interest.

I still use a dumb TV, and I will for as long as possible. I'll never buy a new TV ever again. only used from Facebook. most stuff I only watch on my computer anyways.

Echoes back to the Facebook leaker

There's no bar too low except that which receives continuous ceaseless push back against people who push things like this.

There isn't enough push back to matter. So the bar lowers.

Yikes, don’t ever wank in front of your TV.

Lucky Cream and Goldstar (the L and G in LG) would be ashamed of this.

For now, most of the ad bullshit can be turned off. Though it turned back on after the latest software update and forced me to spend another 10 minutes digging through the horrendous settings menu.

Great, now they are going to know how aroused I am when watching "Golden Girls" reruns.