'People Will Not Forget': Fury as Schumer Caves to Trump-Musk Destruction
'People Will Not Forget': Fury as Schumer Caves to Trump-Musk Destruction | Common Dreams
Just for the record, this is what democrats always do, and it's why they keep fucking losing.
Democrats would rather have trump than have a social-democratic platform, and it shows every time they have the opportunity to fight him and chose to capitulate instead. The democrats aren't a left-wing party, certainly not now, and arguably not since FDR.
There is always a few Democrats to fuck shit up. This time there were 10! I hope to see the day where Shumer and Fetterman both fuck off into the sunset.
The problem is, both parties serve someone, and it's not the common man. The Republican party is a lot more effective at maintaining the illusion -- look at how many of their constituents consistently vote against their own interests and are proud to do so.
There's people working for Federal agencies RIGHT NOW that have either already been terminated or are on the rocks and they are STILL Trump supporters. They are willing to destroy their own lives just to "own the libs" and it will be interesting to see how far this trend will be taken.
Do-nothing Democrats strike again.
Schumer is a coward and a fraud. The weakest leader in a generation. He should resign in shame.
Schumer is a traitor, capitulator and collaborator.
his response to ice literally kidnapping a man for speech was three paragraphs of "oh yeah totally fuck him hate how fucking Arab he is" before finally saying "but this might be a little bit wrong? uwu" and asking for reasons rather than fucking demanding he be released immediately.
Chuck "blackbagging might be wrong" Schumer. between him and Amy I wonder how much worse a family can get.
fascist collaborator piece of shit.
opposition party? these motherfuckers may as well be on the same goddamn team.
They are.
'People Will Not Forget'
They always forget.
Oh damn I'd forgotten about that
Big surprise, old suits in the democratic party don't represent the modern democratic voter.
There needs to be term limits, especially based on age, and to whipe out any form of stock trading and "donations".
Perfect encapsulation of the state of the Dem leadership:
"Chuck Schumer caving and saying he’ll vote for a blank check for Trump and Musk is demonstrative of why Democrats lose," lamented progressive activist and writer Jonathan Cohn. "Voters so often don’t believe what they [Dem leadership] say because they don’t believe what they say."
(Emphasis and clarification in brackets mine)
Literally less than 24 hours after saying democrats wouldn't support the CR
Absolutely pathetic
The entire Democratic Party leadership needs to resign and be replaced by people who will actually fight for working Americans.
In November Schumer and the other leaders suffered the worst defeat in party history yet they haven't realized the only thing left for them to do is resign in shame.
The worst defeat in party history is definitely Reagan 1984.
Not going to happen.
Change has to come from the bottom, not the top.
Couldn't agree more - it will only happen if they receive enough public pressure and those of us who understand what's happening here have a responsibility to do what we can to spread the word.
What the fuck.
Cowardly traitor.
"VoTe BlUe no mAtTeR who"
Liberals as always would rather side with fascists.
How are you gonna explain this one away @someguy3@lemmy.world ?
Who said I have to explain it away? Nice strawman!
I don't know why you are picking fights and letting a faceless, random Internet stranger live rent free in your mind. The centrist Democrats/liberals are tone deaf. There is no getting through to them other than their value of private property, free market and stocks. If those things are even nudged, they will immediately side with fascists and make up some circular logic of excuses, instead of admitting what they truly value for siding with fascists.
Call your democratic rep and demand that they insist Schumer resign.
(202) 224-3121
At this point, I am Not donating a single dollar more to the party. I won’t vote for a democrat at the top of the ticket and will pick a DSA candidate or green candidate. If the democrats aren’t willing to fight for democracy or strengthen it when they’re in power, I won’t reward them with votes.
Every democrat senator needs to be primaried.
Me neither. I'm done. They have until midterms to change my mind.
So we yell at someone who yells at someone who then says "No." and then we're back where we started.
Plus my democratic Senator has brain damage and I have no democratic representative.
AOC will be the woman Hillary wished anyone believed for a second she was.
Chuck is a pussy and needs to go ASAP
Probably in the minority here and I'm not a fan of establishment Democrats, but his reasoning that Trump would use the shutdown to move without court interference seemed logical to me.
You know Trump could have just vetoed the spending bill and then got his shutdown right? Or the Republicans could have not submitted a bill or even voted against with that argument that it was better for Trump to have his way.
This has just legitimized him further in that when push comes to shove people (Democrats) do agree with giving him what he wants. He's an unchecked bully.
This is not logical it's easy.
Whoever shuts down the government, loses. Republicans can't just veto the bill or not pass a budget. But they CAN pass something Democrats don't like and then blame Democrats for shutting down the government if they filibuster it. And voters WOULD blame Democrats, because they would be the party blocking the bill.
Run through the logic, after they stop this budget. Trump does whatever he wants while people blame Democrats, and eventually the Democrats cave and pass it anyway after allowing irreperable harm and harming their ability to take back the House in 2026, or they cave by letting Trump whatever he wants indefinitely.
Even so, the way Schumer handled this was just awful. Vulnerable Democrats in the House stuck their necks out to vote against the CR. Then Schumer acted like he was going to filibuster it, but it was really just a procedural ruse. He burned his colleagues in the House and the Democratic base. If he was going to allow the CR to proceed, then he should have been signalling that since the beginning, and he certainly should never have acted like he was going to block it.
Also, as a personal matter, the tone that Schumer has been taking really grates on me. His solution is always to just roll over and let the Republicans do whatever. Maybe that's the rational thing to do, reasonable minds can disagree, but he always seems so smug about it, as if that were obviously correct, and anyone who suggests that we should fight is a moron.
And whenever I hear him talk, I never get a sense of urgency. It's as if nothing that's going on really bothers him, and he's 100% certain that things will turn out just fine like they always have. And that's just objectively not true. Regardless of what our strategy should be, Trump is doing irreversible damage. Even if we end up winning the House in 2026 and the Presidency in 2028, our international reputation is going to be completely fucked for at least a decade, and very likely longer than that. Schumer should be worried, even if only for his own self-interest, because the system that has been so good to him is at risk of collapsing.
Even if he made the rational move in allowing the CR to proceed, I really think he's just not a good leader or spokesperson for the party.
I see the logic behind it, but cant decide if the system is now so broken that his logic even works in the new framework.
I'm sure when Chancellor Trump orders the purging of opposition leaders, he'll leave you alone for sucking his dick like this. Surely debasing yourself before wild animals will keep you from being ripped to shreds by them.
Dictators kill their enemies. Everyone who isn't, and hasn't always BEEN their fiercely loyal, obedient ally is an enemy. Especially if they're a declining, psychopathic, malignant narcissist.
All the progressives should unite under a NEW party banner
I'm not sure if that would be easier than usurping power by primarying d's who don't get in line but clearly the geriatric dinosaurs in power in the DNC are half the problem.
The rightwing was really successful in primarying weak republicans who wouldn't toe the line but they essentially had free money (PACs) to do so. The nascent left has no such source of funding, the Sorosbucks to Stanleynickles is terrible.
Do you want Republicans to gain infinite power forever? Because that's how you give Republicans infinite power forever.
Oh wait that already happened.
It would be far easier for them to just hijack the Democratic party the way the far-right did the Republicans.
We need a Tea Party of the Left
Instead of the ‘Taxed Enough Already’; the left needs the ‘Tax Elites Already’ movement!
The TEA Party, apart from being funded by oligarchs, relied upon their target audience's patriotism.
The left has no patriotism because we know history, so it won't work on us.
I hope he got a lot of money to sell us out.
Red... Blue... doesn't matter. A bunch of spineless pussies fill congressional seats assuming if they go along with whatever bullshit is presented they'll keep getting their cushy salaries and excellent benefit packages.
Every one of the fuckers needs to be on unemployment.
I dunno who that guy is, but every time I see his face all I can think is..
Not a sudden reversal, this is all what he wants. The idea that these corporate Democrats are against what Trump's doing is false. Chuck Schumer is perfectly happy with deregulation. He's perfectly happy with rolling back every bit social quality we've established in the last 100 years. All of them are. Neoliberals are 100% okay with Donald Trump.
I am almost certain that Schumer is being threatened.
No. He likes being republicans' lackey. He's living the centrist dream right now.
The pseudo-fascists will always bow before the real fascists. Only one way to get rid of fascists.
Did he and or his family got death threats from trump or what?
Trump has been making threats like that since before the election. If Schummer didn't think he could do his job, he should have stepped down.
Surely it's the fault of the voters tho, right? I mean the dems are the good guys! \s
"You see, Schumer flip flopped on the Neo-Enabling acts because you didn't vote hard enough. This is actually the fault of the mythical leftist that influenced millions of people to not vote, but also are so insignificant we don't need to listen to a single one of them. Anything otherwise would put blame at an unpopular candidate losing a popularity contest."
Anyone have any info on yes voters visiting specific places in Illinois? I'd like to pay them a visit.
Are you guys idiots? The republicans are already fucking up the government, cutting left and right without regard to laws and congress. So you want the democrats to shut the government down to protest ... what exactly? How does this help? This basically takes the narrative that fucked up government programs are now the D's fault when the R's are currently 100% in control.
Too many people here are like kids just wanting to break things. I'm pissed too, but shutting down the government would be the stupidest thing Schumer can do right now. The R's don't care if you shut down the government. They'd be happy. They'd then blame all the liberals for social programs that wouldn't be funded and broken things. If you want to negotiate and play hardball, find something they care about and use that. This aint it.
The GOP is the one shutting down the government by refusing to put forth a budget that doesn't include its actual dismantling.
If a shutdown is so great for republicans, why are they voting against it?
Because it looks super bad if the party in charge of all three branches of government can't actually run the government at the simplest most basic level.
My initial reaction is anger, but hearing his reasoning, I fear that he might be correct.
They will
Don't fuck with chuck
I quit. American politics are a circus sideshow full of dancing turds. At this point, let it burn. The side that I vote for won’t even stand up against this shit, so what good is my vote now?
Just a bunch of rich assholes doing whatever they want.
It won’t burn on its own. It will only get worse if left unattended.
I’m just so disappointed in the fact that there are so many people in this country that actually voted for this shit. How can people sell themselves out like that, just to be able to say, “I owned the libs loool”
I don’t even know what to think anymore.
Come to Europe. We got ice cream and free healthcare. Also you don’t need a gun to protect yourself when going out for a walk.
I think those of us who want to leave cant..
I mean I KNOW I'm fucked, I'd save my wife...but who would accept us? Likely not one single European nation.
Gonna need that free Healthcare after I get done eating all of that ice cream.
That's why the American people have to do it themselves. Take to the streets. The system has failed you. No one will save you but yourselves.