Kremlin says US foreign policy now ‘aligns’ with Moscow’s vision
Kremlin says US foreign policy now ‘aligns’ with Moscow’s vision
A blow-up at the Oval Office last week saw US President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance accuse Ukraine of being ungrateful for US support.
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With Zelenskyy saying the end of the war may be very far off, it looks like Ukraine is preparing to go ahead without US aid, rather than be pressured to give in to Russian ultimatums.
We'll see if he can hold out if/when we lift our sanctions on Russia and start allowing the transfer of everything they need to rebuild their military hardware. Or even worse, selling them our own weapons.
EDIT: And now around three hours after I posted this, White House announces directive to drop sanctions. gg
I mean, whats the alternative? Unconditional surrender?
As I see it, here's the 3 options:
Bend the knee to trump, give up your resources, and keep your country with no security guarantee worth a damn, just to lose your country later. And not just the lack of credible security guarantees, but specifically agreeing to never join the one alliance that would give such a guarantee.
Bend the knee to Putin, and just let Russia annex Ukraine fully, therefore avoiding a war in the unspecified future.
Go at it with or without US support.
If you were the leader of your country, how much of your land and resources would you give away in the pursuit of temporary peace, knowing that it is only temporary?
Churchill kept fighting Nazis when it was hopeless and parliament was trying to force him to surrender because he said that 1. Surrender would get the UK no better terms (true here, also) and 2. Countries which go down fighting survive as countries. (I mean in the hearts and minds of people, not just on a map). Countries which surrender, don't.
Putin can't be trusted. Without security guarantees, it's surrender. Even with security guarantees from this current US administration, I wouldn't trust any agreement, since trump isn't trustworthy either. There needs to be troops from all over the EU in UKraine, as well as US troops. Either that or give Ukraine nuclear weapons.
I didn't say it was the wrong choice. Just that now it is more of an uphill battle than ever, perhaps with exception of the first month or so of the conflict.
Europe needs to step up and quickly.
I didn't think you did. I was more continuing the conversation to point out that there is no alternative. Someone else replied to me with a great point about Churchill being in a similar situation as Zelenskyy during WW2.
It's clear this go around, America is going to join the wrong side of history. That's not a new thing, but it will be the first world war specifically where we are clearly are on the bad side. Typically America commits it's atrocities in smaller skirmishes, and by destabilizing and taking advantage less developed nations for profit. That slavery habit does hard.
The world is fucked, and America is deciding whether to go through a civil war, or to let it be a "bloodless revolution" to quote the heritage foundation president. Europe is going to have to figure out how to defend in a post American world at best, or it's going to have to figure out how to defend against America at worst.
Also,, to your edit... Not just the end of Russian sanctions, but the full official cut of military aid to Ukraine. We're witnessing the beginning of WW3. Hope we both make it through or that tensions die down.
Importantly Europe needs to step up before the US does.
I don't know what the logistics are but how do we start a fundraiser for this man?
It would piss trump off...
It would show the rest of the world there are still sane people in America...
It probably wouldn't help much but if it's anywhere near successful it will probably make an impact... And force trump to actually help
Someone needs to do this...
You know the saying, be the change and all that. If you think it's a good idea you should go for it. I don't know much about fundraising or web design but I would be willing to offer some kind of support, be it some time and energy or helpful resources/tools I am able to find for example. Maybe you can help in ways other than financially as well. We are the ones who need to do the things. The number of those willing to act and speak out against oppression and regression and the cults of ignorance and capitalism has been going down as a result of a concerted effort by very well funded groups and individuals. The sooner we act to pull folks out of the pipelines siloing them off into hateful ideologies (alt-right pipeline comes to mind for example) the sooner we can start the work, individually and interpersonally and otherwise, to end the cyclical perpetuation of harm forced upon us by the systems that we live under. Please feel free to reach out if you want support and resources for taking steps to make changes, and that offer is for anyone who is reading this and doesn't know where to start and is acting in good faith.
How easy can it get...
Yeah I didn't know about that one... But I was looking for something more in line of.. I don't support our idiot of a president and his actions so I'm giving this guy money in spite of him
The ultimatums putin, erm I mean trump suggests is essentially completely surrendering to Russia (maybe with a brief ceasefire, to let Russian soldiers to regroup)