‘The Flash’ Disappoints With $55 Million Debut, Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Flops With $29.5 Million in Battle of Box Office Lightweights

Read more. There are more things to say than there are people to watch them. The problem is that film is art and investment bankers are the world's worst artists. Going to movies to watch investment bankers is always terrible. They are just too dumb to realize they are always in front of the screen every time they get any control whatsoever. Investors are always conservative, and this makes copycat crap with overpaid management and cast for a formula that is anything but what people want to watch now.

I mean, even now the overwhelming majority of movies are about white men. Maybe there are other cultures, ethnicities, minority groups, etc with vastly different stories to tell? Give me a romcom about a T4T couple, or about a historical fiction about Thai mythology, or the Australian aboriginal origin stories. IMO there are lots of stories from around the world waiting to be told....

But we wont get those, we have the 653rd marvel movie coming out instead.

It’s more that so much IP is locked up behind very risk-averse megacorps, set the copyright term to 30 years (enough to profit from the initial hype and a nostalgia cycle) and it’s in the public domain without exception then we’ll suddenly see a much richer popular culture. People like to think Disney and other huge firms are creators but I’d liken them more to hoarders or the sort of people who buy restorable classic cars only to carelessly let them rot away into a puddle of rust.

If I was a dictator of a country IP reform would be quite near the top of my agenda, only an arrant philistine would argue for corporate control of Shakespeare or the Iliad in my opinion yet we think so lowly of our modern culture such greedy and disrespectful hands are allowed to monopolise it. By all means let creators profit from their creations for a while after they’re invented but what we’ve got today is an obscenity.

A less extreme version of this would be a ‘shit or get off the pot’ law that either forces an auction or better yet returns IP to the public domain that’s not been used over the last x years in a meaningful way.

I know someone who posts a lot of movies on their plex, supposedly legit as they allegedly work in the industry, and I doubt I'll even watch it there. Ewww Ezra Miller.

Yeah this is a good choice. They did not give enough screen time to "supergirl".

Although I'm generally a fairly hardcore superhero movie fan and see them all, i thought I was stuck in the superhero fatigue because very few things have really hit for me the last few years. But then you get Across the Spider-Verse and realize the problem isn't the genre, the problem is that most of the stuff has just not been very good lately. Passable, sure, but not good, and extremely rare lately to feel like I'm watching anything special.

Can't speak much for Elemental other than from the little bit of marketing I have seen it didn't feel like anything particularly new, just a skin on previous Pixar sorts of stories. I saw Flash this weekend because I'm a big fan, and overall it was about what I expected. I don't trust any hype around DC these days, so I figured I'd get a decent popcorn flick with some solid fan service for old-heads like myself that love Keaton's Batman. And that's pretty much what it was.

If you saw the trailer and have a few brain cells that knock into each other, you probably had the movie pegged going in. If you've already read or watched previous incarnations of Flashpoint, you pretty much know the story. The things that would be novel/interesting about this movie re: multiverse and using characters from other continuities and such feel entirely derivative coming in after No Way Home, Everything Everywhere All At Once (which is a superhero movie, fight me) and really, really suffers coming out a week after Across the Spider-Verse which has some similar story beats, but just does it waaaaayyyyyy better. I've already re-watched AtSV, and it is just jam-packed with what I can only describe as "good-taste." ItSV was groundbreaking for a lot of reasons, and to your point, it looks anything but bland. Even with that as the measure going in, I didn't expect AtSV to still be so visually it's own movie and still groundbreaking in it's own right.

When you add in the meta for this movie and knowing that it's unlikely to go anywhere relevant to the new DCEU or even casual fans just hearing about all of the Ezra bullshit (plus tbh I really, really don't think he's appealing as Barry or in general for this role) I think they were lucky to end up at 55mil. Really, the marketing team for this movie deserves a raise based on that alone as they managed to get most of the stink off of this and make it feel like an event movie.

Yeah I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Along with seeming like zootopia and inside out, I also don't think it's really obvious what the film is about. I'm fine with films being vague but they also need to be intriguing. I just think it's a shame as I'm a massive fan of animation so I want it all to do well. I definitely need to find time to go see across the spider verse, the first one was amazing.

Yeah. It looks like a character driven cartoon going up against summer action tent poles. It probably should have come out in April or November or sormething.

Honestly, I might go back for a third. its that good

Hpllywood: That's a genius idea. Why didn't I think of that?

Yeah man, ezra miller dressed like el chapulin colorado really does it for me (🤢)

I don't know anything about it other than that it looks like the InsideOut Mom said we have at home.