DOGE Employees Ordered to Stop Using Slack While Agency Transitions to a Records System Not Subject to FOIA
DOGE Employees Ordered to Stop Using Slack While Agency Transitions to a Records System Not Subject to FOIA
Employees at Elon Musk's agency have been told "OMB is asking us to stop generating new slack messages starting now."
Fucking Hell. Like the Nazis burning their Records.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
I was thinking this earlier: can't we just bombard DOGE/executive branch with FOIA requests?
And when they ignore them?
If Elon Musk is a government official it means you can sue him personally if you got banned from Twitter for violating your first ammendment rights to free speech.
Same with Trump and Truth social.
That's cute. You think the constitution still matters.
I apologize. He blocked my business from posting.
JFC...
"Hold on guys, we need to hold up on doing our Totally Legit and Properly Legal thing until we can get on a comms system that is properly hidden from all investigation..."
MAGA: YEAH! THE GOOD GUYS WON!
Their conception of morality is exactly backwards.
They first consider if the person aligns with their in-group. If so, then whatever they do (so long as it doesn't directly have a negative impact on themselves) is by nature good.
Obversely, if a person is a member of a group that is not aligned with their tribe then any action taken is inherently wicked and detrimental to society.
They don't judge morality by the action, they judge it by the actor.
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MAGA is another way of saying "brainless zombie".
Those people could not find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight.
MAGA: YEAH! THE GOOD GUYS WON!
Everyone else: THIS IS TERRIBLE! MAYBE IF WE COMPLAIN ONLINE ENOUGH THEY WILL STOP!
How exactly is there such a thing as a records system not subject to FOIA?
The article says that the administration seems to be claiming the executive order where they changed the name of United States Digital Service to United States DOGE Service allows them to make the sweeping changes they are making. This is of course ludicrously beyond the pale when it comes to data security violations involved in taking control of data managed by other agencies and getting involved in their staffing. It's a smokescreen for autocracy.
The claim in this particular instance is that they are saying the executive order redefined the reporting structure of the department. Where previously they reported to the Office of Management and Budget, where everything is subject to FOIA requests in the short term, they claim their USDS reports to the White House Chief of Staff and therefore is shielded from FOIA during the current administration. We can theoretically get the data later (I'm sure they'll be very responsible with chain of custody on such important data 🙄) but it will be 4 years later, when no one cares because we're in the trenches dealing with the long term consequences of what's happening right now. So, it is subject to FOIA, yes. But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.
The fact that they are moving so quickly tells you they don't think what they are doing is legal.
But they're making up stories and betting the courts won't dare to challenge them.
No, it's worse than that. They know the Supreme Court will rule on their side no matter how ludicrous the reasoning is. See: the Dobbs decision.
Do they record phone calls and face to face communication?
we shouldn't have records systems not subject to FOIA
We shouldn't have a majority of voters in the U.S choosing a Nazi, but here we are.
I keep seeing this kind of comment, and it irks me. There's nothing actionable here, and it honestly just comes across as defeatist. Oh well, what can we do, turns out a majority/plurality/murder/what the fuck ever of voters prefer Nazis. That's some greasy fucking energy. We're here now, regardless of what ought to be, so let's start talking about how to deal with it.
They technically are, but not until the current administration is out of office, which is somewhere in the realm of never.
Those enabling a nazi, are by association also nazis. People need to stop referring to this administration as separate. They are also pushing the agenda, so they are also nazis.
We should, but only for private citizens. Anything government related should be done in public.
Maybe his yes-men will start using Discord instead lol.
Better question: why aren't they using X, the thing that Elon is advertising as the Everything App?
Reminds me of the dorkwad who leaked military(?) secrets to his friends on discord a couple years ago. I think he was about their age at the time too, which tracks.
On the Warthunder forums there are regular leaks of military secrets, like fighter jet schematics, specs and such just to win arguments. People are fucking stupid.
Because he wants everyone else's data on it so that he can exploit it. He doesn't care about the data of his own people - he doesn't even want it recorded.
Or because they know it's not secure or reliable enough for their hostile takeover. Not like Slack is any better though
All goverment records are subject to FOIA by default. It's an opt-out system.
They shouldn't be able to opt out.
Well if the Republican packed courts get to decide it will probably stand. Even though it is total bullshit.
No need to burn records when so many have simply accepted their content being removed from visibility without reason or accountability in this day in age.
Well, no problems here . . .