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Let's do a little experiment:

Tankies are horrible
Nazi's are horrible
The US is horrible
Russia is horrible
China is horrible

- Grammar and spelling nazi's are a necessary evil for the good of the web.
I like concision: people are horrible.
:P
- and Nazis
- People are fine. Hierarchy turns man into monster. Destroy the hierarchy, destroy the beast.
Extending to the political party specifically for Germany, but not the others; could be worth doing that.
Like, EVERY country has its good people that hate the horrific actions of its administration. It can cause issues and paint xenophobia if you don’t identify and shame the bad actors. Instead, you get Chinese people that live in poverty thinking America hates all of them for having thin eyes.
Better thing to say imo: fuck Republicans and the CIA, fuck Putin, fuck the CCP.
I agree with all the above
Yes

I experience the opposite. Whenever I criticise US government, I get attacked by hordes of cringy Americans.

I must say I had a pleasant conversation on workers’ rights in the US recently on c/technology (lemmy.world). By pleasant I mean "not being insulted because I live in France and workers do have rights so I’m a red commie" pleasant.
- For the majority of Americans, as long as you are a pleasant person, you will have pleasant conversations, even if it’s about a disagreement.
is there any chance you are doing it while spouting Kremlin propaganda? because then there is maybe a time to look in the mirror on this one
- Imagine living in the west and genuinely believing that it's Kremlin propaganda that's the problem.
- Anyone that disagrees with the US government is spouting Kremlin propaganda. Riiiiight....
  You are a joke.
Little do people know everyone is shit and your personality that is only based on ideologies makes you look like a moron. Yes we know there is unfairness in the world. But any “ism” won’t fix it.
- Doomerism be like:
- "Yes we know absolute monarchs, unequal access to justice, oppression and the dumb wars they get us into are unfair, but no 'democracism' will fix it"
  It takes a very basic knowledge of history to understand why this argument is shit.
That's weird considering America's favourite pass time is to bitch about how shitty our government is
- Lol yeah, I'm confused by this. Our government is a fucking mess right now!

lemmy devs are actually pretty good at not forcing their ideology on others

A CAPITALIST SPY
GET HIM
It is way easier to get banned on reddit for a lot less than a slight not conformist opinion. Here they downvote you, stop. And i talk about real controversies.
- Uh huh. I'm already banned from some lemmygrad community. I don't give enough of a shit to learn the name of it.
- Yeah but they haven't built in communism... yet.
  I'd be ok though if it were the Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism though.

I thought tankies were adult fans of Thomas the Tank Engine.

Chooooo chooo 🚂🚃🚃🚃
I'm personally a Maglevie 🚅🚋🚋🚋 floaty zoom zoom
Found the diesel
Choo choo motherfucker
- c/bitchimatrain
Yes
- Wow someone actually made Thomas into a literal Tank engine 😭
those are foamers

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reddit will delete this comment cuz they're controlled by China but fuck the CCP!!!

same energy

I got banned from one of the communities for simply saying I thought both socialism and capitalism won't work without more nuance and blending.

I always figured the snowflakes were really the far right... But no, it's both extremes, apparently.

If you can't examine real world examples of your philosophy critically, you've no business in the debate. Tankies aren't willing to hear about the flaws apparent in the system any more than your average thin blue bootlicker will.
I say this as someone who makes guillotine "jokes." Definitely jokes.
The political spectrum is a circle. Extremists might latch on to different BS but personality types of extremists on all ends are essentially the same. Loud hateful aggressive assholes lacking the intelligence to understand nuance.
- It appears the leftists would like you to stop saying unkind things about them. I guess it's good we're not in one of their specific communities, eh?
  Way to prove the meme right, extremists.
Socialism is just democracy extended into the workplace. Saying pure socialism won't work is arguing against democracy.
- I will always argue against pure democracies. People are not invested enough to provide a coherent opinion on 100% of the solutions our societies require for survive and thrive.
  A vote over the use of chemicals for water treatment could easily end in their permanent ban. Hell, with the right malicious intent, someone could easily get dihydrogen monoxide banned from crop fields.
  A pure democracy is how Idiocracy becomes a reality. Now, a mix, such as a republic electing the careful use of democratic socialism... Sure!
The extremes of each ideology are surprisingly similar my friend
- I honestly had no idea before I came to Lemmy.
  I actually really enjoy a lot of the facets of socialism and communism... Most people would easily mistake my independent political position as "left", especially since I strongly oppose the current GOP.
  But here in Lemmygrad, I am apparently quite the villain for suggesting some extremist, far-left policies are toxic.
- I think people confuse "liberal society" with "liberal capitalism" and think if you have 100% socialism then you don't even own a toothbrush or something

Everything that doesn't conform to my ideology is CIA propaganda.

The CIA isn't all that bad. It's run by raccoons forming a shadow government.
I see this one FAR too often.
The US controls gigantic parts of the information/entertainment space: movies, music, social networks, YouTube, TV, even their politics is a keyfabey circus for the rest of the world. American propaganda is literally everywhere.
It's an image of consumption and individualism above even self preservation, so deeply internalized that Americans and perhaps half of the rest of the world don't notice. Sometimes it feels like the US lost its mind in 9/11 and started hurting itself in confusion but it was never a "smart player" in the world, just a narcissistic bully.
It's not necessary for the CIA to be involved because it's literally superliminal and grotesque at this point in time. The US throws its weight all around the world and is brutish and callous with its "use of force", which means murdering people (and destroying property, oh they love them some property) in case there's people in this thread that are lost in so many layers of euphemisms and irony.
Americans need to deal with this instead of becoming defensive and recurring to whataboutism. Yes, China and Russia are horrible and murderous in their own ways and at a different scale, but one must not use them to avoid self reflection.

Why are the libs so hung up on criticizing socialists? If you don't like this forum then go back to reddit.

I’m a socialist but not a tankie. Criticizing tankies!= criticizing socialists
- Yeah thinking criticizing Tankies is the same as criticizing socialism is tankie behavior
- Classic tankie behaviour - > rather Clankie
That isn't how Lenny works, though. Anybody can fire up an instance for any type of community. They could be pro-socialist, anti-socialist, liberals, Nazis, goldfish fanciers...you name it. If you don't like them, you can defederate from them.
- For sure totally agree. So why do the goldfish fancies keep making memes making fun of another community? Why don't they just defederate?
This forum isnt entirely made up of socialists, pretty reddit tier attitude to think that

tankies bad :(

Who gives a fuck what tankies think anyway? That's like caring about what nazi's think... If they disagree with you, you're probably doing something right!
- Tankies do generally believe in things like universal healthcare and elimination of homelessness.
  Just don't ask them how some of them were eliminated.
- Um ... Tankies and Nazis often disagree with each other. Are they both doing something right?
They are

Fuck tankies but also fuck OP

Looks like OP is going full-blown "I don't hate the homeless, but..." elsewhere itt
I'd love to see his ass banned again
- As someone who has worked extensively with the homeless, I've seen quite a few examples of where supposedly anti-homeless takes have been attempts to inject more nuance into discussions than simply being pro- or anti-homeless, both of which are practically meaningless positions.

What is it about reality tankies can't handle?
- The fact that they are authoritarian and are apologists for state murder.
- the holodomor for example
  the numbers are wrong
  actually the kulaks are responsible
  the ussr is being depicted as bad by western propaganda but it wasn't that bad
  you're all brainwashed
  they sound just like holocaust deniers

are these "tankies" in the room with us right now?

Not anymore they aren't.

Fuck tankies, get money

fuck tankies, get money

Fuck tankies, get money

Fuck tankies, abolish money (and the state and the class society when we are already on it)
the least deranged westie has logged on

cry harder

It's amazing the number of tankies and overall left-nuts I've found on here. Figures considering the kind of people that frequent FOSS spaces

Gone, reduced to ashes

Essentially a perjorative for authoritarian communists. The types of people who uncritically glorify the Soviet Union (and depending on which one you're talking to, the Russian Federation as well), the People's Republic of China, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, etc. Here's a page on Wikipedia about it.
Authoritarian communists, please see the second paragraph of this wiki article
it's ok no one does
Me too, although in my minds eye, it's people who like tanks.

What is tankie?

Those who support authoritative regime. I think it's the new commies. Tend to be used on those who are sympathetic to Russia and China.
- I'd argue they're not commies - they don't give a shit about worker enfranchisement. They're just red-coded fascists.
- It's a term to distinguish between anarcho-communists and authoritarian communists (bolshevists)
Basically communists who defend Mao and Stalin. (And sometimes, oddly enough, the current governments of Russia and China.)
Relevant Wikipedia.
a far-left nazi
I asked this question a little while ago because I've heard the term but it's not always clear what it is referring to. I think that similarly to 'woke' it is used in the context of ideological or political battles, so the definition is variable depending on the context. Opponents will likely have the widest definition since that way they can insult the largest group of people whose beliefs they disagree with, eg. "If you support Ukraine you're a tankie".
Words like 'progressive', 'socialist', 'authoritarian' are more appropriately descriptive if that's what you're going for. If you want to have an argument then 'woke', 'tankie', 'SJW', 'karen/keith', 'snowflake', 'bootlicker', 'edgelord', 'redditor' are good choices.
- The term originated in a British socialist political party, I can't remember which, as a term for other socialists that supported the Soviet Union's invasion of I think Hungary. The tank parts originates from the fact tanks were used. Like you say though, the term has become very watered down now and people kind of just throw it around without much discernment.

no

Thin skinned bunch, aren't they?

one thing amazes me for sure: there is still bunch of people loudly protecting their masters' right to exploit and rob them.

And they are doing this while are already living in the world destroyed and robbed by capital, where COVID showed how vulnerable and under-financed our healthcare system is, where due to the global competition and sinking profits of corporations countries are building alliances, and preparing a new big imperialistic war for us, where crisis goes after crisis together with high inflation globally, and where quality of life is sinking monthly.

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