Hey, remember how right-wingers all laughed at What is a Woman? Reveling in their willful ignorance by laughing at anyone who dared to have a nuanced answer? Now they had a chance to define it for themselves, and immediately sat on their own (legally feminine) balls.
“Male” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.
“Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.
At conception I was a single cell that contained both the combined small and large cells(sperm and egg). I was a fertilized cell that didn't produce either small or large reproductive cells yet. I think that makes me neither then?
I think having left wing politicians unironically start praising this would be the absolute best response. They didn't solely to get a rise out of the left and so far we're just laughing at the jokes being made at it's expense.
What are you taking about? He's full on on energy. He expand drilling in the US so oil companies can produce more oil, even though we already have a ton of oil in the US. Increase supply of something that is already abundant so that they can sell it at a lower cost at the pump. Genius!
It’s so when he fucks relations with Canada and Mexico, our largest crude oil suppliers, US big oil will have the resources to gouge us without supply constraints.
Wouldn't this just mean no one's a male or a female. I get that we develop female characteristics first in utero, then go to male if the y chromosome is there in most situations, but thats later on. At conception, the only cells you're producing are undifferentiated stem cells, not reproductive cells.
I mean they’re obviously arguing chromosomal sex is the end all be all
while it is true the gonads and external genitalia of embryos appear the same regardless of chromosomal sex it is also true that generally that embryo will develop sex characteristics in weeks 7-12 based on chromosomal assignments that occurred at conception.
The xy embryos have the presence of the sry gene on the Y chromosome which triggers development of gonads into testes, testosterone, and amh. Wolffian ducts become early stages of a penis, amh causes Müllerian ducts to regress
Xx embryos lack sry gene obviously, which allow the gonads to become ovaries. The wolffian ducts regress without amh and the Müllerian ducts become early stages of a vagina
Then week 12+ is when uterus/prostate start
That said biological sex is obviously much more complex than this. Intersex people exist. And there’s a great deal of variation in that.
Gonadal dysgenesis can occur when the gonads do not fully develop into testes or ovaries, incomplete or ambiguous genitalia.
True hermaphroditism can occur where both ovary and testicular tissue is present, again usually leading to ambiguous genitalia (no futas)
Androgen insensitivity can lead to ambiguous genitalia or in some cases an xy person with female external genitalia
Alternatively excess androgen can cause masculinized genitalia in xx people
Kleinfelters (xxy) can give underdeveloped testes, infertility, and low testosterone
Turners (x) underdeveloped ovaries, infertility
And this just kind of hand waves all those people away. Do you feel like your identity is linked to the fact that you’re in this minority and maybe doesn’t match what people perceive you to be? Are you an xy person with female genitalia because of androgen insensitivity who feels that your genitalia don’t match who you are. Well technically you’re a guy now I guess by these rules although we all know they mean “if you look like a chick you’re a chick”
And this all is besides the scientific evidence on transgender neurology, which is large and growing.
The bed nucleus of stria terminals is associated with gender identity and is typically smaller in cis women and larger in cis men. In amab trans women it tends to be similar to that of cis women
Cortical thickness of trans individuals tends to align more closely with their preferred gender
Trans people tend to show brain connectivity patterns in regions associated with self perception and body image aligned with their identity
Etc. this is already a novel. And this doesn’t even touch upon the *many many * more things at play here like genetics and epigenetics, prenatal neural developments and hormonal factors, social structures around gender (though tbf they did somewhat touch on this if only to outright deny its validity without offering any real rationale other than “we think it’s dumb”)
But these people obviously don’t give a shit about any of this. They’ll negate it, attack the source, outright deny the claims with no counter evidence, etc. or they’ll just do what they’re currently doing, remain completely ignorant on the topic and seize authority and power to implement their will regardless of the scientific consensus.
Dark times but fuck them. You don’t need the governments approval to express yourself. although I do recognize this will probably be an absolute nightmare for anyone who has not gotten a name change, modified birth certificate, drivers license, etc. if you haven’t done that maybe do it asap, especially for federal documents like passports (especially if you plan to bail on this shithole)
I hate these "gotcha" responses like the "everyone is female" thing.
Of the many MANY ways that "biological sex" can be determined (phenotype, hormone, etc) the ONLY one that exists at the time of conception when we're not even talking embryo stage yet because there's only one fertilized cell (or two if you want until mitosis begins) is chromosomal sex.
"But we're all female at first" isn't going to hold up in court, and it's NOT going to save trans lives. We need to do better.
Except XX male syndrome is a thing, where externally individuals present male but have female karyotype. So are those people female despite having functional male genitalia? And that's only one of a myriad of situations where an individual's chromosomes don't reflect what their phenotype is like nor their biological reproductive function. Chromosomes are NOT an infallible indicator of biological sex.
Also the text of the law says nothing about chromosomes. It indicates from conception the cells that produce the large gamete are considered female, and cells that produce the small gamete are considered male. No one is producing gametes at conception. It also completely disregards anyone who produces no gametes at all. At best this law has declared everyone to have no biological sex whatsoever.
They're going to enforce it however they want. Words only mean something to us, these idiots just want carte blanche to attack anyone they deem as not fitting the gender binary.
They're fascists, they're only going to enforce it when they want to hurt someone they don't like or when it benefits them. They don't give a shit about precedence or conviction or morality or anything other than what serves them in the moment. They have captured the courts, and both houses, and the presidency. Consistency or hypocrisy don't matter to them. They'll use whatever justification works in the moment and turn on a dime if it serves them.
I know it's that stupid. But it doesn't matter that it's stupid. They're going to use it when they see fit and they have captured the whole legal system to use at their discretion to enact it no matter how stupid it is.
Exactly. Just wait until Donnie realises technically all cis-males are trans, as all fetuses start off as female and only begin transitioning to being male six weeks into their existence
I thought sex was determined at time of fertilization by the chromosomes. If a sperm carrying a Y chromosome meets an egg carrying an X chromosome, won't the resulting fetus always be male? Is that not the case?
People are pointing out is that at conception there is only one cell, the fertilized egg / zygote. So everyone would have only the "large reproductive cell" (the egg). It's honestly so poorly written that you could also argue it's saying everyone's bigender too
But as an aside, it's actually not even true that XY guarantees someone will be assigned male at birth.People with Swyer syndrome present AFAB or intersex while having XY chromosomes
The opposite is true for people with de la Chapelle syndrome where they have XX chromosomes and present AMAB / intersex.
Many people with either of those never know they have XY or XX . There's also way more possibilities than just XX and XY. You can have XXY, XXYY, just X, and more
Not the case at all. Remember, biology is way more complicated than you think. As a starter, there is chromosomal and hormonal sex. Chromosomal sex (X and Y chromosomes) generally determines hormonal sex. But… the gene that determines hormonal sex (SRY) can sometimes get knocked off the Y and onto the X. Or off the Y and onto nothing. Or a bunch of other things. And hormonal sex can get disrupted in a bunch of ways, so that you end up with people who are intersex or seem to be cis female until puberty when they grow a penis. Or who appear to be cis female until they have problems conceiving and find out they are XY but don’t have testosterone receptors. Or any of a thousand other things that make sex determination complicated.
Biology is statistical not deterministic and with 7 billion people there are going to be a lot of edge cases.
Initial development trends toward "female" characteristics. If an embryo has XY chromosomes then normally a gene on the Y chromosome will start to express which pivots development toward "male" characteristics.
If there's a mutation on the responsible part of the Y chromosome then that expression may not happen stunting the development of "male" characteristics.
Certain disorders can prevent the development of sex organs entirely which can lead to the testes failing to develop and subsequent hormone releases to not happen stunting the development of "male" characteristics.
Other disorders can result in the initial sex organ development, but prevent adequate hormone production which stunts the development of "male" characteristics.
Since "male" characteristics occur later in the development cycle (and not always when they're otherwise "supposed" to) at the point of conception all zygotes are of "the sex that produced the large reproductive cell" and since the current administration views zygotes as fully developed people the current administration accidentally classified all humans as female.
Incidentally there being multiple methods by which one's sex can be determined incongruously from the typical indication of one's chromosomes is just one reason why anti-trans bigotry is stupid.