Do you think people want a job where they have to listen to you bitch that you don't have enough pickles on your burger out of the goodness of their hearts, Janice?
My mom talks about this shit all the time "flipping burgers isn't a job!", and demeans a shit load of other service jobs. She says those are just for teenagers to buy a car or to save for college (as fuckin if).
But theoretically, if they were only for teenagers and broke college students, you really think those millions of jobs would all be filled by people between the age of 16 and 24? Seriously?
the vast majority didn't work their way through school either, and if they did, it was a bullshit job, not the kind of dangerous child labor they endorse nowadays. meat packing, construction, logging, they just want cheap labor.
Makes sense. Average in-state tuition is about $16000 per year. At $7.25/hour, you only need to work 200 eight hour shifts every year to pay for tuition that year. Add that on to the 180 school days, it's just 380 days a year.
Obviously, you also need to register yourself as a subcontractor via an LLC subsidiary of a foreign shell corporation to avoid paying taxes on that, and you live at home, so all your food is completely free, and everything is on the internet anyway, so you don't need books for college, and your college which is obviously in your town is only a 98 minute light jog away from home.
Classic boomer logic... just because they could afford a decent life on min wage set 50 years ago doesnt make it true when the min wage has lagged behind inflation and not even accounting for greedflation...
My father pulled this gem out on me. I pointed out that fast food restaurants are open for breakfast and lunch, you know, while high schoolers are in, you know, school. And college students are in, you know, school. So by default adults who are not in school must fill 2/3 of the shifts. Surprising how fast he shut the fuck up when he realized that the job was, in fact, a real job that real adults with lives and children and rent were doing. He never said they were jobs for kids in my presence again.
"That job doesn't deserve a living wage" = "I dont respect the people who do that job"
It's people looking down on that work as being inferior to them and their job and them thinking "they shouldn't get what I have".
It's a view that jobs are better or worse than others thats been perpetuated by the rich. Belittling people who are not the top earners and making the argument that they deserve less that someone that they deem more professional.
What what these people should be saying is why don't I get more for my efforts , not that others deserve less.
By keeping the anger pointing down, they stop you from looking up.
If you ever find yourself at work and think that another member of your team isn't pulling their weight and that they are getting paid more than than you, consider that they might be, by some fluke of fate, actually be being paid fairly and it's you who is being taken advantage of. Either put your feet up or stamp your feet on the ground, but don't kick the chair out from under your peers because that's exactly what the people who pay your wages want you to do.
It's like they don't see them as people, they like a machine, out of view out of mind, but that person has to live somewhere, buy clothes pay bills etc.
People who want a class system. That's pretty much it. The people making the food people are buying are the people making money. The company isn't making money without them. They should be paid according to the money they make, and that would be a huge amount of money.
Which why I find humor in how now (at least in CA) Someone working in McDonald's makes more then say, an associate teacher at a preschool.
(Agian no diss on fast food workers, just a little humour by the same logic people put more care into thier burger then thier kid)
Jobs in things like teaching and nursing are considered the caring professions, with the assumption that people who go into them do so to help people rather than make money, and thus are a soft touch to extract profits from. It is considered normal for teachers to be paid poverty wages, have to buy classroom supplies from their own funds and to lose money over their career, because, hey, if you didn’t want to sacrifice yourself for making the world better or whatever, you should have gone into finance instead.
If fast food worker wages cannot sustain life then fast food is unsustainable and should die out. If fast food becomes as slow and/or as expensive as a restaurant meal then fast food is a market distortion that shouldn't exist. Simple as.
Not to mention ultra-processed foods and soft drinks are costing thousands of lives and billions of dollars of medical expenses per year. We have the fast food industry causing a health crises and a shitty ‘healthcare’ system perpetuating it.
Around where I am, fast food is the same price as some restaurants and only a few dollars less than others. For the most part they are faster though, so maybe there's a point for people to go. Also easier to sit at a fast food place for a bit rather than take up a table that a server needs to turn for a while.
People go out of habit. Honestly, that is usually why my family ends up getting any of them, but we have even broken those habits as prices keep going up. They have forgotten their place.
"Those kinds of jobs should be fulfilled by kids."
And then they'll tell you child labor is nbd... typical of people who didn't labor in their childhoods, they're fine with the poor kids working whatever.
Anyone wo worked McDonald's on Christmas Eve deserves $25/hr! Making those ridiculous 1k nugget orders comes at the cost of humans dedicating hours of their lives to this shit.
I do think a lot of food jobs should go away. Restaurants are a huge source of food waste and it's because we have restaurants ready to serve more food in an area than there are people in that area, let alone people who want to go out and eat that night.
The "My pay is shit but at least I'm not a fast food worker" mindset. Or maybe they're just pointing out the obvious situation we're in but don't necessarily want it to be this way.
If McDonald's is making wild profits then the employees deserve a living wage. Full Stop. I don't care if they just open the door, no reason 1% of the company deserves 90% of the profit.
They want to make the excuse that these jobs are not designed to make people money. And yet when we talk about suppressing the power and ubiquity of corporate greed across America, and all of the economic harm that comes with it, all we hear is “but they create jobs!”
I wish there was some CHIM shit in play where saying something so idiotic vanished you out of reality and retroactively erased such a person from our collective memories.
Or maybe a better society that mitigates this kind of outlook. That's cool too.