No I don't think it's justice, but there's no such thing as true justice so I'm going to celebrate what we get
You mean a political, economic, and judicial system that is actually for the people? Holds greed, narcissism and psychopathy accountable instead of creating fascist dystopia, destroying the planet and billions of lives, along with most life on earth?
Man, that timeline would've been sweet.
This is justice because it makes the rich scared and likely to alienate the public even more. As they become paranoid, they'll overcorrect and make people realize that they're the enemy. They foolishly made class warfare the only avenue for change. They've created actual anarchy by executing liberal democracy for being too woke. Fucking dumbasses didn't realize how good they had it.
Hear, hear! There's nothing* holding the worst back any more, they've practically rubbed our fucking faces in it by now. Culminating in the Supreme Court ruling in favor of literal immunity for any presidential action? For real? How is anyone supposed to read that?
Look there's been a goddamn parade of degradations over the years, but boy. The weird inhuman parasite class sure couldn't help but take it too far, could they? Couldn't even just sacrifice one of their own to keep some plausible deniability on normalcy? Well, of course not, they wouldn't be what they are otherwise, I guess.
* Well. Not nothing...
I think of it not as being right, or good, but truly just. Justice was never about being good or right, but a manifestation of karma. Like the 'ol "If a son shall strike is father, his hand will be cut off".
If you hold responsibility for decisions that unjustly, for no good reason, killed people, death is a just punishment.
As the one of the oldest laws of justice, "An eye for an eye".
I was really wondering why no-one has made that parallel before. The thing is basically exactly what happened in Joker.
I saw other posts using this template on Wednesday.
The very first meme I saw was "You think killing CEOs of large corporations is funny? I do and I'm tired of pretending it's not"
Some of us just never bothered pretending. That shit's hilarious.
I really hate this meme template. Executives are responsible for their company's decisions, but Arthur Fleck is not a role model.
He’s an example of what a sick, distracted, narcissistic society that kicks down at the poor, does to a person’s mind over time. Helping people is not profitable to capitalists. He should not be idolized. If anything, feel sad for him. He was cast aside by society and it drove him to a dark place. It’s not something people have to understand, but they should at least understand why he arrived where he did.
You're interpreting the gunman as Joker.
I'm interpreting the gunman as Batman.We are not the same.
Arthur fleck is an example of a failed healthcare system within a capitalist structure failing repeatedly and severely for not just the one individual, but everyone that sympathizes with him as the joker.
He's not a role model, but he is a hero, and he is inevitable in all similar situations.
Oh, the irony…
I don't believe in justice.
I believe in consequences.
We either create a society that favors positive outcomes or we don't.
When we don't we end up with too many negative outcomes, which feed into more negative outcomes like a vicious cycle and then everyone has a bad day.
Too many grudges yields a high rate of terrorism, which in the US looks like rampage killers with assault rifles. Also a shitload more of suicides; we're really not that confrontational as a society.
So far, this still looks like a pro hit. The suspect is still at large, where novices quickly get located. And they knew their way around their weapon, clearing a jam neatly mid-encounter.
It could be revenge for denied coverage, but it smacks of something more personal, a rival or enemy or someone who wanted him dead not for revenge, but out of the way, say a power grab.
It's a guess based on too little data, but it smacks more like Göring deciding to eliminate Röhm.
However, Charles Dickens is still right. If you forgo humanity in persuit of wealth, the public will cheer your demise, whether it is by gunman or crush depth pressures undersea. Today's revelatiob is less that a rich guy died, but that the public is delighted by the news of the incident, and has little shame about it.
Where is mke_geek when I need some (un)fun meme bot responses?
This is Lemmy, you don't have to say "offing" here!
