"so it's a taxi". Basically all it was, except I surprisingly trusted taxi drivers more. For the cost, I'd rather just take mass transit
Did the ride in the autonomous vehicle cost more than a human driver, or are you making a blanket statement about taxis in general?
This was a lyft in Vegas a couple years back. Taking an autonomous one was more expensive, but I chose it for novelty. That was already on top of Lyft/Uber being more than taxis.
In my experience taxis now are cheaper than uber/lyft. Not autonomous, but coming home from the airport the trains weren't running for maintenance or something, and an uber was 160 dollars. No joking, that's how much - base. Taxi was about 50.
I took a vertical self driving car to my hotel room. It worked fine because it runs in a controlled environment with no obstacles.
One of those vertical trains?
Took a Waymo once with some coworkers. The ride was fine (San Francisco inner City trip). What really surprised me is how normal it felt after a couple of minutes. Most people don't talk to their driver much anyway, so there might as well not be one.
stupid bullshit
Care to elaborate? What was stupid bullshit about it as a rider?
For starters, cars. Second, the self driving isnt even that awful, although the cameras concern me and i dont like them, but the one thing that made me so hateful towards it is all the stupid subscription BS in modern cars. Also cars (if you buy new) are a product you just cannot buy "ethically", You will always be paying into some coorp that just sucks. Plus we don't need to keep engeneering cars, imagine self driving subway/tram stations, a fully automated system which is never late. (although the lateness of trams is probably not the drivers fault, but the passengers or the traffics, which leads back to cars -which we don't need.)
I ride Waymo on occasion. It’s generally fine. They don’t take highways and can vary in price, maybe more expensive on average. Can sometimes pick up and drop off a bit farther than a human driver would.
My wife like that you can change the temperature and there’s no pressure to talk to anyone.
more expensive? Jesus
Depends on you definition. I run OpenPilot in one vehicle.
Fully autonomous (no driver needed) or is level 3 self driving enough? (tesla straddles that line)
I drove a car with adaptive cruise and it was cool. Still as stressful as some cities subway lines (learning curve for me and most places kind of assume you know). The monorail and Tesla loop in Vegas were both much less stressful but the loop was kind of worthless (just as much walking to it as there was to just walk to the entrance of the convention center). Autopilot on planes seems pretty decent now too, but the cost of flights and layovers still stress me out. They are really only worth to get to a destination for a while and in a rush.
That said the self driving of a subway would be the way I would go if I had to choose a day to day option. As long as it's consistent and at most one change over it's not that bad to navigate.
