So I get banned from lemmy.ml What now?
So I get banned from lemmy.ml What now?
cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45204357
Yesterday, I created my account on Lemmy.ml because I want to become mod on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml. And I posted this comic on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml It's SDV game cutscene where Shane a NPC go watch Sports game with you kiss you accidentily but It was part of that event also player kiss Shane(NPC) back. Here's video for more context. And someone claimed it have SA(Sexual Assualt) From Hexbear Ofcourse. So, I should delete it. I said it was a part of game cutscene. And If main player doesn't love the Shane(NPC) then they don't need to complete this event. And Just as a sarcasm I added Yeah we shoule delete this entire community because this game is Woke like Woke Detector Steam Group said. That user think I am some anti-woke dickhead something like that IDK. And tell me to Kill My Self. What I do now? I wanted on become mod on .ml because community was already well established. I message dessaline but I am sure he will not unbanned me. :(
Did I really did something wrong? I don't know If I really did something wrong.
Link for that comic if embed doesn't work.
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Celebrate. Move to another instance. Dbzer0, Solarpunk, Lemm.ee, .world, there are a bunch of choices. Takes some work to revive a community, but it's very doable. .ml has trash admins and mods, and that's unlikely to change.
I am on lemm.ee for a year now I just created account .ml to become mod dying !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml community.
Well, might try creating the Stardew Valley community on Lemm.ee then? You could do some reposting if you wanted a bit of easy activity while things wind up.
Yep, Done
And subbed.
That's the best move - a lot of people have blocked or avoid lemmy.ml, so having a community outside of it will help them. I helped start !horrormovies@lemm.ee as an alternative to !horrormovies@lemmy.ml.
Thanks for mentioning it - subbed!:-)
Ah. Well, you learned your lesson about interacting with Lemmy.ml, it sounds like. :-/
Really
Yup, really. Things like this are a dime a dozen in
.ml; not just from the mods, but also the admins.
I have a rule. I will not join ANY community on .ml
Even if I would otherwise enjoy the content.
I'm even a fan of Stardew Valley, and I would like to subscribe to your.....oh. It's on .ml?
Hey, quick question. Does anyone know any decent Stardew Valley communities on Lemmy? I'd love to know if we have any Stardew Valley communities!
Why someone could even make a brand new community, and I would join! Any Stardew Valley on any instance besides .ml and besides any that defederated from .world.
!stardewvalley@lemm.ee Just created
Just memes? I enjoy the game but I'd rather see content that's actually about the game.
I was just crossposting my old post which I posted back then on .ml. You can post whatever you want no problem. I will also post patchnotes, news, guide and cool finding of mods of Stardew Valley.
There's a post about tips for beginners, that's a start
Sounds like you should join an instance that defederates .ml
Is there any? I've always seen hexbear and grad defederated, but not ml
I think dubvee.org.
Eh. The only yhing I don't like about .word is that they defederated from the piracy instance.
I generally don't believe in defederation. The ONLY reason I can think of that justifies a defederation would be if there were an instance distributing csam or racist/nazi propaganda.
I may not agree with .ml, their ideals, or their mods, but I will defend their right to exist.
That being said, I'll fully support the idea of any .ml community moving away from that instance as we have seen here.
I may not agree with .ml, their ideals, or their mods, but I will defend their right to exist.
I mean, they can still exist, defederation just mean you won't interact with them. I personally think defederation is a powerful moderation tool. Not saying it should be used lightly.
Defederation has more reasons to be than just a bad (CSAM / bigot) instance. Such as two userbases at each others' throat, without one being necessarily bad; or when you want to actively nurture a different culture or goals for a instance, without the rest of Lemmy drowning it.
That said I agree with you that there's little to no value on defederating
.ml, as the problem there is the higher ups and not the general userbase.there is no defederation from "the piracy instance". one or more communities have been removed from being accessible through lemmy.world due to piracy content, but the instance is not defederated. this means that other communities on that instance are still accessible and all users on that instance can still freely interact with lemmy.world communities and users.
Just FYI, you don't need an account on another Instance to become a Mod there (you do need one to start a community).
Just FYI, you don’t need an account on another Instance to become a Mod there (you do need one to start a community).
Reports are still not federated, so having a remote account prevents you from dealing with them
Indeed - looks like they plan to have it done by 0.20.
Dessaline(One of Lemmy Dev) said I need a account on .ml
You'd need one to receive reports but your lemm.ee account can be a Mod over there.
I agree, but I would take .world off that list at this point. It’s getting weird. Not necessarily time to leave yet or anything, but if you have a choice for where to set up a home, I would pick one without little developing red flags.
Don't think I've seen anything from the .world admins that makes me second-guess making my home here. Not to say they're perfect, but I don't think I've seen anything that would make me think "Wow, these guys are in some way, fundamentally objectionable" rather than "These are amateurs making amateur mistakes, as one might expect from a volunteer service."
Some of the more established mod teams are less than stellar, though. Plenty of good mods, but certainly a fair share of mediocre or tetchy ones.
my tetchy self includedI wasn’t trying to say they were bad, nothing like that. I agree, there are some great people, yourself included. I’m more thinking in terms of:
- No VPN access, no bot API access
- Defederated from beehaw
- MediaBiasFactCheck and whatever the fuck strange thing is going on with that
- Busy, overworked admins, trying to do too much
I wasn’t trying to imply they were bad people by any means. Just raising a question about why to make them the default when there are options that don’t do those things.
It’s a follow-on problem, I think, stemming from the combination of the volunteer nature and the scope of how much they’ve bitten off. I finished, this week, the first draft of my magnum opus essay about problems of incentives in the Lemmyverse where I talk more about this and will probably post it soon.
Wasn't the Beehaw defederation something to do with open sign-ups on .world at one point?
Otherwise, yeah, I get that. It'll be good for other instances to take up more of the load, both for the Fediverse as a whole and for .world in particular.
Otherwise, yeah, I get that. It’ll be good for other instances to take up more of the load, both for the Fediverse as a whole and for .world in particular.
Strongly agree
We've been working on !movies@lemm.ee and !showsandmovies@lemm.ee , which are now more active than !movies@lemmy.world and !television@lemmy.world , but some people keep posting on the LW versions for whatever reason
Well, you're never going to capture 100% of the audience of another comm on a decentralized place like the Fediverse. If you're interested, though, you might try reaching out to the mods of those two to discuss getting a pinned post directing to the more-active community? Or at least a mention in the sidebar.
Well, you’re never going to capture 100% of the audience of another comm on a decentralized place like the Fediverse.
Indeed, but on the other hand a very common complain on threads asking about current Lemmy issues is how discussion is fragmented across several posts for the same link: https://lemmy.world/post/20926036?scrollToComments=true
It wouldn't be that much if an issue if we had 100k monthly active users, but with our current userbase, we are probably too low to have multiple similar active communities to coexist.
There's also the choice problem: people in that same thread also complain about not knowing where to post when there are two similar communities, and end up not posting at all.
If you’re interested, though, you might try reaching out to the mods of those two to discuss getting a pinned post directing to the more-active community? Or at least a mention in the sidebar.
The television one is unmoderated.
Last time I reached out to the movies community to consider maybe redirecting to ours as they were looking for new mods, they removed my comment.
https://lemmy.world/modlog/1291 5 months ago
The Beehaw admins explain it.. In their own words:
The choice to defederate from an instance can also be based on our inability to effectively moderate that instance’s users. As of now, only two of our defederations are on this basis (lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works), and we hope to eventually refederate with both of them.
I think beehaw said that accounts from .world were causing a level of moderation load that made it effectively impossible for them to provide the types of community they wanted to have.
I get it. I don’t even know whether it is anything related to .world, or just because of you host half the users then you will also host half the trash which will look like a lot. I have noticed that when things get too big, something gets lost.
To be fair, Beehaw is still running on 0.18.3, even though the current Lemmy version addresses some of the issues they had.
I'm not sure what the status is on their side. I get that they don't like the Lemmy devs, but then Piefed could be an option, it's probably feature equivalent to their version of Lemmy
Lol keep being tetchy PugJesus, we like you that way 😂
I have observed mod action and bans of users when no rules were violated on lemmy.world several times. The news and political subs might as well be on .ml as they heavily censor opposing views. I’m not talking about anything against the written rules. There’s lots of unwritten ones.
Mods on other instances at times follow the ideas of lemmy.world, so you might get automatically banned elsewhere.
Getting banned means all your posts and communities get deleted without a trace.
sh.itjust.works has been good so far.
I have observed mod action and bans of users when no rules were violated on lemmy.world several times
Feel free to report those on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
That really helps to call out power tripping
Dbzer0, Solarpunk, Lemm.ee, .world
I mean, none of these defederate from .ml right?.I feel like people say a lot of bad stuff about .ml but nobody seems to actually defederate from them. Why is this?
.ml 's big problem isn't the users, but the communities/mods/admins, unlike Grad and Hexbear. So defederating doesn't meaningfully decrease the workload for the mods or admins of a defederating instance by much.
Honestly, the users can be quite annoying at times too
I mean, in the sense that if I see someone with an awful pseudoleftist take about how putting minorities in the minority-crushing machine is actually Good Praxis in Creating A Revolutionary Crisis, I could put money on the user instance being .ml. But the vast, vast majority of folk from .ml seem fine enough.
That's a good point.
There are quite a few topics mostly active on ml
Basically FOSS and privacy communities
- !linux@programming.dev is a thing, but !linux@lemmy.ml is far more active
- same for !opensource@lemmy.ml and !opensource@programming.dev
I imagine they'll all have counterparts elsewhere eventually. Did my bit with !horrormovies@lemm.ee.
The instance is the home of two of the core Lemmy devs, defederating would be a last resort for Admins.
Personally, I've never had much of an issue with their users (they tend not to cause too much trouble outside of their instance) so it hasn't felt necessary.