Georgia Election Board Orders Hand-Counting of Ballots |Critics say the move could significantly delay the reporting of results in the battleground state and inject chaos into the post-election period
Georgia Election Board Orders Hand-Counting of Ballots |Critics say the move could significantly delay the reporting of results in the battleground state and inject chaos into the post-election period
It's safe to assume at this point that delays and chaos (and the opportunities both will provide for fraud) are the exact point.
This time around, Georgia is going to be prepared to "find" Trump however many votes he needs.
The real question is whether they're going to bother actually doing the math to make it believable, or if they're going to give Trump 105% of the state's population worth of votes.
i am thinking they are going to scrutinize black neighborhood polling stations and say they didn't match the hand count of total ballots with the digital total and therefore this polling station is invalid or something
Significant delay combined with the party that insists elections are supposed to be over at midnight. Seems like an obvious recipe to count certain votes first and then whoops out of time.
Exactly. Low-population areas are Republican-leaning and will get counted fast. Cities which are Democratic-leaning won't have the staff to count it in one night.
That same party already made it much more onerous for people of color to vote in Georgia which will mean fewer votes to count as well
Fuck. They passed it. Harris just lost Georgia.
Look into the details of what was passed. It won't simply delay reporting, it will allow them to refuse certification of results based on almost anything, including "suspicious" results, i.e., Trump losing under any circumstance. They've also installed loyalists across the state to halt certifications based on that principle on purpose.
Georgia just successfully overthrew democratic elections in their state. They did it after working out loud and in public on it for four years, and no one did anything about it. I'm dead serious when I say that this functionally and practically, which is all that matters, makes it impossible for Harris to win Georgia.
Incredible. And incredibly sad.
And don’t even think about giving water to people stuck in line for hours in the heat. That’s a felony. (Okay its a misdemeanor, and a judge “paused enforcement” of it sort of.)
Fuckery Ahoy!!
Could one person go along the queue, giving out 1 penny's.
Then a second person go along the queue, selling bottles of water for a penny?
Yes. Yes you can. At least you could about 4 years ago. I live in GA and was going to do this last election but turns out my county don't enforce this dumb freaking rule so I did all that research for nothing.
So by law all ballot boxes will have their seals broken immediately.
Fucking Jenius, georgia republiQans! That’s such a vote-securing idea! Also when all your Big Lie accusations become plans, you’ve gone full seditionist, just FYI ok? Ok!
HARRIS JUST LOST GEORGIA.
This is basically the first election result. Trump just won his first 16 electoral college votes. This should be HUGE news.
Trump loyalists now have the power to privately count votes and additionally have the power to not certify any results for reasons left intentionally vague.
Let me reiterate. HARRIS JUST LOST THE STATE OF GEORGIA.
As a Canadian and former campaign volunteer (and poll observer) this is really weird to me. Federal elections in Canada are always hand-counted. Results at each polling station are counted in front of volunteer observers from each party (as well as neutral observers) and then delivered to Elections Canada where they’re tallied (in front of lawyers from each party) and results are reported to the media.
It’s not a big deal and there’s no chaos.
It's a lot more doable when you don't have a 6 page ballot with several dozen offices on it and have planned and budgeted for hand counts. It's hard to do with lots of positions on the ballot, little notice that it's going to be done, and no money to hire staff to do the counting
The delay is intended by Republicans, in order to cause a crisis that goes to SCOTUS... who seems to be owned and operated by the GOP. I'd say lets compromise... they can hand count and if not done by the cutoff then their votes simply are not admitted. Sucks to the non Republicans in the juristictions but hey, why let these dumbshits screw up the whole election?
They should hand count the ballots.
Idk what this is about but hand counting can be done on a massive scale and avoids all manner of screwups like Florida in 2000 that gave bush the election.
Even if you want that, it's a really bad idea to set new rules for how to count ballots a few weeks before the election, when you don't have time to hire people or train them to do it right. This guarantees chaos.
I looked up this story on the Gateway Pundit because I'm a sadist i guess. The comments were...about what you'd expect. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/huge-georgia-state-election-board-passes-rule-requiring/
Per the article
The resolution simply requires the hand counting of physical paper ballots at the precinct level to ensure it matches the total reported by the tabulators. This does not involve a hand-count tabulation of the vote totals but rather simply the total number of physical ballots cast at that particular precinct.
So, because in Tennessee, a QR Code error created a mismatch between the number of physical ballots vs tabulated ones, and they found the same code error in 64 out of 66 counties in Georgia's tabulators, they are going to hand count the number of ballots to make sure it matches the number the tabulators counted. Especially, since they apparently found a bunch of additional ballots in some counties, as well...
I mean, this seems reasonable on the surface. But, considering the situation, it seems like it could all go really sideways.
Isn't there another way they could count just the number of paper ballots? Like, as they come in, instead of later on, by hand? I'm not sure of the way thier system / machines work, or of a way that would convince everyone of privacy, but...like a laser counter that counts every time its broken, or something...Idk, there just seems like there has to be a better way.
Edit: so really, objectively speaking, this is an issue. One that wouldnt be caught unless they ordered a hand recount after the fact. I mean, obviously, this isnt an objective source, but, unless theyre just straight up making this up (which I suppose is a possibility), how is not having every ballot counted OK? Isnt there a better suggestion than breaking the seal immediately, counting everything by hand, and inviting all the issues that come with that? Something that could even be presented to the court or something as an alternative, that everybody could agree with. At least people could say they tried to solve the issue another way. If it gets rejected, then it would be plainly obvious there were ulterior motives. At this point, it sounds as if theres some plausible deniability behind the reasoning for hand counting.
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I'm voting Democrat and I see nothing wrong with this. Yeah it may take time but at least it'll be an accurate count. I think every vote should be hand counted.
The problem is that the people making this decision are a bunch of conspiracy-mongers who aren't able to provide money to actually count the ballots. The point isn't just to make it slow; it's to create opportunity to conspiracy-monger and choose to not certify the results at all, so that peoples' votes aren't counted, and the Republicans can just install whomever they feel like in power.