Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending Sunday 04 August 2024
Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
Does TP0 have an point he's trying to push with this thread? It's disingenuous enough that it feels like there's an agenda, but at the same time what could the point even be? Fuck cancer patients?
Here's a quick and dirty vanilla js script that highlights all posts in a thread according to how recent they are, the brighter the newer, and alse separately highlights new posts, to make long running threads easier to follow. I'm posting it in the stubsack because it's the thread I had in mind when writing it.
Pasting it in the browser's console and pressing enter should be enough for the page you have open, not that I've cross tested it any... Worst case scenario it does nothing or it colors the posts wrong and you just reload the page, I swear it won't steal your crypto, or mine any new.
In Firefox you can find the console by pressing F12 and selecting the console tab.
edit: Also if you prepend javascript: to the code and store it as a bookmark you can just invoke it by calling the bookmark, like a macro, see https://awful.systems/comment/4173451
Note: longer threads don't load all comments at once, so you'll have to rerun the script if you scroll down far enough.
edit: fixed for Edge, because why wouldn't it show dates differently there.
edit: updated it to check if there's a (xx New) notice in the post count in the OP and use the number to highlight the latest xx posts, i.e. all post made since the last time you were here. Change the value of variable newPostColor if you don't like the lovely shade of lavender I picked. Depending on if edited posts are counted as new or not the count might be off, and like, what if there's a new post that's also been edited? Solving that seems to mean moving away from the warmth and comfort of the quick and dirty territory, and also is there a public philthy repository somewhere?
This new trend of describing the American right wing as weirdos sure is something, isn't it? What used to be our little hobby has escaped containment, largely due to the surfacing of JD Vance and his backers during the RNC. As recently as last month, when NRx and Rationalist oddballs came up in a news item, the response of the average reader would be to shrug and dismiss them as a small minority of sweaty nerds and assume that "regular" Republican politicians wouldn't have anything to do with them. Things have changed; now there's many an NPR-loving granny googling "what is a yarvin" and getting wound up about it in her group chats.
We've all heard of the Overton Window, which according to Wikipedia is, "the range of policies politically acceptable to the mainstream population at a given time." I therefore propose a new thing, the "Yarvin Window," which we can define as "the range of insane policies that it is politically acceptable to ascribe to your ideological opponents."
This is the price they pay for grabbing the wrong end of the poo stick.
Rumor, but lol if true "A former coworker worked in campaigns for a while and the thing he told me about doing that which has stuck with me is that everyone on campaigns is doing insider trading on betting markets" Source. Campaigners making money scamming Rationalists basically.
Zitron's sample size may be limited to his Twitter following, but its a bad sign for AI if bashing it gets you praise from both sides of the political aisle:
I was just thinking about this today. I had a thread go viral where I bashed AI, resulted in thousands of new followers, and I've had to block a bunch bc they turned out to be on the far right. Honestly amazing how bipartisan AI hate is. Never seen anything like it before 😂
Prominent EA/rationalist cult member Kelsey Piper taking a break from defending tech billionaires for going MAGA to angrily insist on her duty to keep her children segregated from the Oakland masses: https://x.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1817335817515532694
This orange thread is about San Francisco banning certain types of landlord rent collusion. I cannot possibly sneer better than the following in-thread comment explaining why this is worthwhile:
While I agree that the giant metal spikes we put on all the cars aren't the exclusive reason that cars are lethal, I would hope we both agree that cars are less lethal when we don't cover them in giant metal spikes.
the comments also have some bangers. a quick selection:
My mom used to transcribe calls for companies as work, but then her work implemented AI to transcribe the calls, leading to work calls having sentences in them such as: “Thanks for watching!” “This venue has the best beat” and putting in random websites that DONT EXIST into the calls, when the caller said nothing like that.
imagine this in financial or medical services
had a survey from my university about how staff feel about AI implementation for our university. One question that concerned me was "how do you feel about AI being used for grading?"
The issue with AI grading assignments is that students will most likely get the mindset that if the professor or TA doesn't care enough to put in the effort to look at my work to give me feedback to do better, why the hell should I put in the effort and spend thousands to do this?
please come to our university, it costs 500k for a year and we pinky promise that the prof/TA won't get more than 10% of it, your learning is our "top priority"
My friend and I entered an art contest a few months ago and she lost to very obvious ai “art”. She spent months on a self portrait oil painting that even when putting my bias aside was amazingly beautiful and definitely deserved to win. There was ai competing in the charcoal category with me too but luckily someone looked at competing pieces before the judges actually scored anything and bombarded the hosts of the competition to remove the piece and they did eventually. It’s incredibly frustrating especially considering part of the first place prize was a scholarship that my friend definitely deserves and needs, and the contest hosts were very hesitant to remove the ai “art”.
it's weird how a chunk the art world continues being bad at handling fakes
For additional context, training ChatGPT-3 took enough energy to propel the titanic at full speed for 37 hours.
Or around 920 tons of coal.
Given the highly speculative subject of this paper, we will attempt to give our work more gravitas by concentrating only on escape paths which rely on attacks similar to those we see in cybersecurity [37-39] research (hardware/software hacks and social engineering) and will ignore escape attempts via more esoteric paths such as:, meditation [40], psychedelics (DMT [41-43], ibogaine, psilocybin, LSD) [44, 45], dreams [46], magic,
shamanism, mysticism, hypnosis, parapsychology, death (suicide [47], near-death experiences, induced clinical death), time travel, multiverse travel [48], or religion.
Among the things they've already tried are torture, touching grass, and declining all cookies:
Unethical behavior, such as torture, doesn’t cause suffering reducing interventions from the simulators.
Breaking out of your routine, such as by suddenly traveling to a new location [199], doesn’t result in unexpected observations.
Saying "I no longer consent to being in a simulation" [200].
The whole space scene really depresses me now. The Musk cult and TESCREAL and more overt ideologies (I’ve seen claimed old time L5 people throw around ‘spiteful mutant’ and other stuff). The whole thing just seems to be going nasty.