Dog temperament test per breed, links below

The most fascinating part of this to me is that roughly 88% of mixed breed dogs passed the test. So if you're just looking for a great dog, a mixed breed might actually have a better chance than a purebred!

Unless you're getting a lab. I've never met a lab that wasn't the bestest doggo ever lol

Less chance of genetic defects from inbreeding as well.
- I love these mutts, so adorable and unique.
Without knowing what types of mixes were in the sample I wouldn't draw too many conclusions. Poodle and lab mixes are some of the most popular mixed-breed dogs.
yeah this is the one i was most interested in, nobody else brought this up. Im genuinely curious why this is but i've no clue
- They’re not inbred
- Because good easy breeds like labs, retrievers and GSDs are really likely to be a big part of a lot of mutts.

Very interesting! I dug even further and found the description of the test: https://atts.org/tt-test-description/

o sick, thanks for this link, this was better than the description i had found

The American Pit bull terrier, Stafordshire Terrier, and American Staffordshire Terrier are all “pit bulls”. They are all near over 85% to 90% on the chart. Me and my pitts have known that for years 😌

Yup. Us pittie owners know that no matter what, our dogs are getting blamed. Few months ago on a walk we had a collie escape from a yard and started jumping all over my girl (thankfully not biting). My girl just sat there looking at me like "uhhh, dad? Make him stop?".
Of course their owner started screaming bloody murder when my girl hadn't even growled, let alone done anything else. It's almost as if dogs aggressiveness is largely based on the environment they were raised in, and pittie owners are extra careful because, again, no matter what its our dogs getting blamed. Of course the people who get a dog to be a toy tend to get breeds like Goldens and GSDs, and then never bother to train them.
- Explain this
  Pitbulls are responsible for 60% of all injuries and 63% of ocular injuries. Pitbull attacks have higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than attacks by other breeds. During 2005-2017, pit bulls killed one citizen every 16.7 days, totaling up to 284 Americans
  https://coloradoinjurylaw.com/blog/dog-bite-statistics/
  In the 10 years from 2009 to 2018, pit bulls killed or maimed 3,569 people in the USA and Canada. (Merritt Clifton, Dog Attack Deaths & Maimings, U.S. & Canada, 1982-2018 Log.) They killed over 80% of all Americans who are killed by dogs. (Colleen Lynn, 2015 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities, at http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2015.php.)
  Published, peer-reviewed studies in authoritative journals of psychology and forensic science establish that pit bull owners as a whole -- statistically -- are more likely to be socially deviant, engage in crimes involving children, domestic violence, alcohol abuse, and violent crimes against other persons. (Jaclyn E. Barnes, Barbara W. Boat, Frank W. Putnam, Harold F. Dates, and Andrew R. Mahlman, Ownership of High-Risk ("Vicious") Dogs As a Marker for Deviant Behaviors, J. Interpersonal Violence, Volume 21 Number 12, December 2006 1616-1634, abstract at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17065657;
  https://dogbitelaw.com/vicious-dogs/pit-bulls-facts-and-figures
  Top 10 Most Fatal Dog Breeds Table, 2005-2017 US
  Pit bull: 284 deaths (65.6%)
  Rottweiler: 45 deaths (10.4%)
  German shepherd: 20 deaths (4.6%)
  Mixed-breed: 17 deaths (3.9%)
  American bulldog: 15 deaths (3.5%)
  https://www.mkplawgroup.com/dog-bite-statistics/

Should have taken these dogs to the vet, I feel like this chart would look a lot different temperament wise. Working in the field, I'm very confused how some of these breeds scored so well and others so poorly.

Yeah, as someone who's been around dogs for decades, this chart doesn't make sense. I'd like to know the methodology used, and with how many dogs of each breed.
- I mean, the methodology is pretty well outlined on the graphic lol.
Seriously. Is it just me, or is it a little racist (breedist?) to lump dogs into individual categories based solely on breed? They're all unique individuals with their own personalities. Any dog can be a good boy if raised properly.
- Bruh, do you understand what a breed is?
  They are specifically breeded for certain traits, it's fair to lump them into breeds when looking at behaviour and temperament since those are traits that can obviously be bred.
- It's just you.
- Yeah, I almost wonder for a lot of these if they were getting dogs from the same genetic line. I've seen some breeders make dogs with poor temperaments just becuase of the breeding stock they've been using.
  Like, I do agree bearded collies can have poor temperaments, but so bad that they're that far removed from all other dogs? Strong disagree.

They're all good dogs, Brent.

That one downvote is from Bront.
- heh! Brint withdrew their downvote.

searches Husky

no husky

goes back to eating snacks

Husky is there under golden retriever on the chart and malamute is somewhere in the middle.
- I am, admittedly, blind 😎
- It's easier to locate huskies by sound.
It doesn't help that the "No. Breed" legend at the bottom is just about useless because it is not in order of percentage nor in alphabetical order. It seems to be... Random?

Would you look at that, pitties pass at a higher rate than GSDs, Goldens, and most other highly popular dogs besides labs.

Yet somehow they're inherently evil or something asinine like that

I think a lot of the problem is two things:
A certain aggressive portion of people DO think that pitbulls are violent dogs, so they take them on and train them to be aggressive dogs
Pitbulls are strong as hell, so when they do act aggressively they cause a lot of damage
The real answer is to do something about the bad owners, because they give the whole breed a bad reputation. Continually saying that pitbulls are not a problem ignores this point.
- The real answer is to do something about the bad owners, because they give the whole breed a bad reputation. Continually saying that pitbulls are not a problem ignores this point.
  Those two sentences seem to contradict each other. If the bad owners are giving the breed a bad reputation, then the problem isn't the breed. It's the owners. What point does that miss?
- Wildly disingenuous characterization of the test. It's not a test of unwarranted aggression. You took four words out of context without reference to the fact that it says "in the face of a threat." Dogs are supposed to protect you (or themselves) when faced with a real threat. So are humans.
- the test is on things such as strangers approaching the dog's handler in various ways without the dog reacting> Objective: These tests collectively evaluate the dog’s capacity to recognize an unusual situation, its threshold to provocation, its protective instincts, and its propensity to realize when the situation becomes a threat.
- You should probably actually go read what the rest is bud
I think the results are a bit skewered because based on what I could find out these tests are done voluntarily by the owner. And obviously, if you own a "dangerous" breed and they are misbehaving you aren't going to take the test.
I highly doubt 95% of randomly selected Belgian Malinois would pass the test. They require a ton of training and without that they wouldn't pass.
With Golden Retrievers you will have more people undertake the test without undergoing proper training of their dog. Because they seem fine in daily life.
Pitbulls are the most abandoned dog breed. Without proper training they are a danger to others. German shepherds are similar and many people underestimate them but Golden Retrievers are most often fine even with suboptimal training.
The reason many of us want to ban pitbulls is because there are too many bad owners. It's the same reason many of us want to ban guns. There are too many people who shouldn't own guns or dogs. And ofcourse compromises are welcome, such as requiring certificates to own certain dog breeds. I think it would even be ideal to require it for every breed.
- I honestly had assumed most of the ban pit peeps were conservatives. Interesting to see so many on the left supporting this.
Pointer: bred to point, naturally will point birds with 0 training
Heeler: bred to corral, naturally tries to corral things with 0 training
Retriever: bred to retrieve, naturally compelled to retrieve with 0 training
Terriers: bred to kill small animals, will go sicko mode on rats with 0 training
Pitbulls: bred to fight dogs, oh it's just how they are raised little hippo would never ever oh no why is there blood everywhere who could have foreseen this
- Pittbulls were bred to fight bulls and other large animals for sport or hunting. This required quite a lot of special training. The infamous locking jaw is an adaptation to allow them to hold onto a bucking bull. The dog fighting happened after baiting large animals was outlawed long after the breed was established.
See my comment https://lemmy.world/comment/1885470

I'd like to know what their tests are, because there's no fucking way a pit bull passes nearly all other breeds.

They are statistically speaking, very well behaved animals. They are also extremely powerful so when they're raised poorly, it goes very very poorly.
- It's Russian roulette no matter what, whether the revolver has 6 shots or 1000. A golden doodle decides to attack it'll do a lot of damage, but a pit decides to attack and you're talking about devastation.
Oof. Hurts to see your biases get punched in the face so hard
- They're responsible for the lion's share of debilitating injuries caused by dogs. That's a hard fact. Some 'temperament test' doesn't change anything. It's not scientific. I've rescued 4 pitbulls in my life. I loved them dearly, but I accept the fact that they are all potential killers.
Well that's why it's not number 1. Couldn't pass the don't attack and mutilate people test.
I don't know.... Pitbulls are usually owned by trashy people so the dog ends up being trashy.
A properly raised pitbull would likely behave better than a poorly raised Golden Retriever. Still if a pitbull decides to fight its much more dangerous.
Here is a description and a video.

Axis label missing

Are they? Popularity and percentage passed, it's in the image.
- Passed what? Just saying another word would help

This just proves my feeling that chihuahuas are plain bad at being a dog. Every Chihuahua I've ever seen was aggressive at anything that moves. Just because they're small, people find that cute or something.

The source seems sketchy

Okay go ahead and take the same data and visualize it yourself then..?

The Malinois at the very front surprises me the most. In our shelter in Germany these dogs unfortunately quite often end up in hardly placeable, unpredictable condition. But there my impression is probably also distorted, because I otherwise see them very rarely.

I'd be interested to see the Regression and P value, it looks like there's a weak correlation to me

Here's a text-version of the results

I had a sheltie named Sivonne that passed away a few years ago of old age. She was the sweetest, most docile girl, let toddlers pet her and didn't mind when cats came over. She was, however, deathly afraid of going outside, and we rescued her from a breeder who de-barked her after she refused to be either a show dog or a breeding dog. I'm not sure how much of her calmness was her personality or just resignation to life, but I hope she felt safe and comfortable for the time she was with us.

De-barking!? Do I want to look that up, or nah
- Imagine what needs to be done to surgically make a dog unable to bark. Somehow, it's still legal in some places. There wasn't anything we could do to reverse it either, unfortunately.

So French Bulldogs 96% aggressive

No I think it's saying 96% of french bulldogs tested have "passed" the temperament test. So 96% are not aggressive, I think that's what it's saying, anyways

Very cool! My schipperke (91% on the chart) is pretty anxious and growly, but i think that's probably from street/shelter life before she adopted us.