Hezbollah and Hamas flags waved during pro-Palestinian demonstration in New York
Hezbollah and Hamas flags waved during pro-Palestinian demonstration in New York
"A couple of dudes amongst widespread protests across the country have done one reprehensible thing. This means the whole protest is illegitimate. Stop complaining about genocide and go back to work."
Pro Palestinian march...waving hamas flags? Sounds like you're pro hamas really.
The two people waving the two flags? Yeah, seems like it. But you’re painting a whole march based on two people. Which seems super disingenuous and shitty. Which is exactly what this outlet is doing here.
If one person shows up to a Trump rally with a nazi flag you'd likely be calling the whole group nazis.
I dunno man....if you were wandering along marching in solidarity with Germans and the guy next to you was waving a nazi flag would you keep marching? I think the people there made a strong statement
Legit question - is there any actual grounds for the "terrorist" label other than striking at a long term oppressive occupying force? Cause ive not seen anyone show any receipts past calling Oct 7 "terrorism" or their overall governance as "extreme" (which, again, makes sense to me after 50 some years of oppression and occupation.)
Murdering and kidnapping civilians with the purpose of enacting their political goals does fit the label of terrorism. Then again, Israel does also murder and kidnap Palestinian civilians (and I mean kidnaps, because they don't have the legal grounds to imprison people at the West Bank) for the sake of their political goals, and they don't get called terrorists. So I call both Hamas and Israel terrorists, but a good general corollary is that there's always political motivation behind someone using or not using that label.
Deliberately targeting civilians qualifies as terrorist and that's exactly what they've been doing. There's also no need, like, not a single need or even excuse, to associate the Palestinian cause specifically with Hamas. It's like turning up at an environmentalist rally with a sign glorifying the Unabomber.
I wonder who paid them to do that.
Meaning that we could be talking about one or two flags shown through a distorted media lens.
That said, it should be on the demonstrators to ensure people waving such flags get put at the margins and I hope that is what is happening.
I think that any coverage should simply ask organizers to comment.
This is such a propaganda tactic: no one can stop someone from showing up with any flag they want. If the organizers embrace it? Then the criticism is fair game.
But if they say something like 'out of thousands of protesters who share our demand for peace, several brought inflammatory messages that don't represent us', then media has a duty to report that.
Organizers are rarely asked to comment by the media during these protests.
The latest Some More News talked about that a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgN3gO0_LLU
That's usually the argument leveraged against platforms that don't fold to demands to deplatform individuals with reprehensible views.
The good old "You're either with us or against us" spiel is excellent at destroying any nuance.
This is the standard that was applied when a few nazi flags showed up at convoy rallies. You either need to reclaim the cause for your protest, or admit that it actually stands for something else and then ask yourself if you want to be part of that.
Did the convoy involve a genocide?