Bernie Sanders issues scathing statement directed at Netanyahu
Bernie Sanders issues scathing statement directed at Netanyahu
www.independent.co.uk
Bernie Sanders issues scathing statement directed at Netanyahu
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The fact this man didn’t get a shot at the office is proof that our electoral systems and rep/dem duopoly is failing us.
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He got a shot; shot down by the DNC and Wasserman Schultz after HRC paid the DNC's debt. She took him out the only way to defeat an ethical populist in America: with money.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/memo-reveals-details-hillary-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/
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Haha yeah shot down. Every single state needs RCV or something similar, and DEmocrsts need to support candidates that want meaningful change.
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It's early, but I had to make sure I was reading correctly on this one
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Yeah. I mean, some crazy set his office on fire
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I am once again asking you to support not committing genocide
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Bernie Sanders video message to Netanyahu: https://youtu.be/vzhdPsCgrjU
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In before Bernie Sanders joins dissenting voices like Jewish Voice for Peace and Breaking the Silence as condemned by Israel, the USA, Germany, the UK etc. for being the wrong kind of Jew. Some version of misled, self-hating, extremist, unpatriotic etc. Destroying the reputation of dissenters, especially Jewish dissenters, is the only way to keep Netanyahu's illogical lie that "criticism of his brand of Zionism and resultant Israeli policy is racist against all Jews" alive. The governments involved in Israel's apartheid and war cimes MUST force that idea on us all - there is no defending the ethics of the situation so their last resort is to repeatedly defame and silence those who protest.
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Nope, the actual reasonable way would be not simplifying your dissent to a point where it's idiotic.
In a situation with two insane sides trying to kill the other it is not enough to disagree with one side. You also need to clearly distance yourself from the other madmen that agree with you, but for the completely wrong reason.
So yes, there are indeed wrong kind of Jews: Those who criticize Israel from a distance but are unable to distance themselves from actual anti-semites, often -even worse- using the same media channels to amplify their message, are indeed wrong.
Just like criticising Hamas but actually just repeating Israeli propaganda alongside idiots arguing for are Palestinian genocide are wrong.
You and your black-and-white arguments are a part of the problem and not the solution. This isn't a team sport. Both sides in that conflict are wrong. And by pretending otherwise you are discrediting valid opinions as well as actually helping propaganda bullshit like Netanyahu's... because it's much easier to pretend that all criticism of Israel is anti-semitic when those critics constantly stand right beside actual anti-semites and are unable to express an actual nuanced opinion beyond having chosen a side.
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Are you saying that Sanders, Jewish Voice for Peace, or Breaking the Silence are actually, truly racist? You talk about not distancing themselves from actual anti-Semites, but why? There's no evidence I know of (certainly none that they publicly publish) that any of those people/organizations are what you call "indeed wrong kind of Jews", hating other people because they are Jews, or wanting Israel destroyed. If you can provide proof of your argument about them standing "right beside" actual anti-Semites please do so.
This isn't a team sport. Both sides in that conflict are wrong
I don't support Hamas and it makes no sense/is unfair that you'd jump to the conclusion that I do. You shouldn't require an explicit disclaimer attached to every criticism of pro-Israeli propaganda or policy, and if it's not there then assume support of Hamas or other racists. You talk about nuance but make no attempt to check for it before attacking. If you're worried you could ask for people's beliefs and then form an opinion based on actually expressed support/racism, but you didn't and I provided nothing to that effect. Arguing as if I had chosen Hamas or anti-Semites as my "team" because I criticize Israel is putting completely unfounded words in my mouth.
There definitely is a side being unjustly punished that isn't "wrong" - the Palestinian civilians who are getting killed, abused, and starved at a pace greater than any other major 21st century conflict. Even if you could magically prove all of those killed/injured/suffering (most by far women/children/noncombatant men) support Hamas, collective punishment of civilians is a war crime for good reason. The best example is the 14,500 children killed, tens of thousands wounded, and many orphaned or otherwise traumatized who are incapable of being "the wrong side" by virtue of the fact that they are kids.
What valid opinions am I unfairly discrediting, and about what topics? You put that out there as if it's obvious truth but did not clarify at all. I don't know how my post could be seen to have addressed any such opinions in the first place, much less done so unfairly. My argument is black-and-white because it talks about Netanyahu's assertions about criticism as racist, which are pure crap. That's what this whole thread and my response are about.
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I am pretty sure there is not one thing I have ever read about Bernie that I did not agree with and smile at for being a good person.
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I volunteered for his campaign in 2016 and am very proud of that. Really respect him even if I don't agree 100% with everything he says
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Good for you, Bernie! Go get 'em.
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WOOOFTA.
that list just keeps on hitting.
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This is Netanyahu's response to the protests: https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1783185828291736035 Yeah he pretty much labels everything as antisemitism.
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I guess Bernie’s antisemitic now too /s
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Next thing you know, he will send a strongly worded letter.
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Fuck off. This is literally the most that's in his power to do and it's a hell of a lot more than the president himself is doing.
Bernie can't stop the weapons shipments. Every time he tries to reel in the genocidal apartheid regime of Netanyahu by supporting or introducing legislation, he's outvoted and out-influenced by Biden and the rest of the AIPAC toadies.
Using his platform to forcefully explain how detestable Netanyahu's words and actions are is the most Bernie can do and, again, a hell of a lot more than those with the power to do more are doing.
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Il meglio è l'inimico del bene.
- Italian proverb
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"Bibi please, you're making it so hard for me to claim you're not committing a genocide despite piles of evidence - my support is crumbling!"
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So, what did you think you'd accomplish with posting something like that?
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Bernie on the right side of history. As usual.
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀🌌 (Always has been)
As always, for like the past 60 years
Schumer did it too. I think it’s important to see the criticism coming from high-ranking Jewish Americans. It’s kinda tough to call them antisemites.